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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-02-22 05:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #5892]


⌈ Secret Post #5892 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-02-23 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Right? "marketed and sold to a particular 'safe' demo where there's no reason or need to push the boat" is the very definition of pop music in general. That's why it's "pop" music - it's music that's designed to be popular.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-23 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
This is why the whole 'basic' thing makes me roll my eyes. If Taylor is basic because she's very good at a safe narrow demographic then the same could be said of artists like Beyonce, Lady Gaga, etc. Pop music is by definition 'safe.'

(Anonymous) 2023-02-23 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'll let someone who's more of a Beyonceologist address the Beyonce part, but I don't think this is entirely fair of Lady Gaga. At least, not Early Gaga, when she was in her imperial phase. The whole point of what Lady Gaga was doing was bringing relatively avant New York art student BS into pop - not that what she was doing was necessarily groundbreaking, exactly, in the wider scope of things, but it was certainly pushing the boundaries of what was common and acceptable and familiar within the pop ambit. So I definitely wouldn't describe peak-period Gaga as basic.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-23 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
The whole point of what Lady Gaga was doing was bringing relatively avant New York art student BS into pop

Like Talking Heads. They are the epitome of avant New York art student BS, but everybody knows they had a stack of popular hits.

And Devo had a few. With weird hats (that weren't meat, but okay.)

(Anonymous) 2023-02-23 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, it's quite similar to stuff the new wave people were doing. But obviously, in a very different cultural and musical context.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-02-23 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
black people are never treated as safe in pop music (for the longest time, people wouldn't even categorize her music as pop music).