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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-03-10 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #5908 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5908 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Tombstone - Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer]



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[The Other Boleyn Girl]



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[Mass Effect]



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08. [SPOILERS for Iron Widow]




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09. [WARNING for inevitable JKR wank]




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10. [WARNING for discussion of antisemitism]




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11. [WARNING for possible discussion of sexual abuse]


































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(Anonymous) 2023-03-11 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a Jewish person who was introduced to these books in an ultra-religious Jewish middle school. They were all the rage and were notable for *not* being censored by the overly sensitive parents (these people took Pippi Longstocking and sharpied a dress over on the cover of her third book) who were running the community at the time. These people could find anti-semitism in a loaf of white bread, and they made that shit feel DIRE.

So having said that, what the fuck are they censoring/changing? I don't remember anything I found offensive to Jewish people at all and I loved the entire Dahl children's canon. It's why I felt so betrayed when I found out just how anti-semitic Dahl himself was. I did not see that coming.

(Anonymous) 2023-03-11 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
+1 same experience

I loved these books because they are mostly about the complex inner lives of children

I also read his autobiography and didn’t catch it there (but I read it as a kid and could have missed it?)

(Anonymous) 2023-03-11 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Not sure when he wrote it, but IIRC, he didn’t get really vocal about it until he was older.

(Anonymous) 2023-03-11 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
As another Jewish person who was a massive Dahl fan as a kid...all of this.

Matilda, The BFG, and even The Witches were all so important to me growing up. The self reliance alongside the found family, the cruelty from some corners deflected by the love and support elsewhere, all of it.

If I knew of works that hit all the same notes, I'd understand choosing something else, but the only thing I can think of is Harry Potter, so.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Me? I'd rather go for the dead antisemite than the living transphobe.

(Anonymous) 2023-03-11 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
the works aren't being changed for anti-semitism, more around everything-else-ism; any mention of "fat" or "ugly" has been completely excised

so augustus gloop is now not "enormously fat", just "enormous"; mrs twit is just "beastly", not "ugly and beastly"; and then there's the witches, where the revelation that the witches are ugly bald women wearing wigs is followed by "there are plenty of other reasons why women might wear wigs and there is certainly nothing wrong with that"

james and the giant peach, meanwhile... "aunt sponge was terrifically fat / and tremendously flabby at that" and "aunt spiker was thin as a wire / and dry as a bone only drier" are now "aunt sponge was a nasty old brute / and deserved to be squashed by the fruit" and "aunt spiker was much of the same / and deserves half of the blame"

yeah, that sort of thing