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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-05-30 04:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #876 ]


⌈ Secret Post #876 ⌋

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[identity profile] bleed-peroxide.livejournal.com 2009-06-01 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I was raised in a strict Christian home, but grew up realizing how ridiculous the religion's charges were.

Similar thing here. It wasn't as strict a Christian home as yours was, most likely, since my parents haven't been Christian all their lives. But my mother is the type who'll love anything just because it has the Christian label, and my dad's a deacon. Needless to say, it did not go over too well when I got my Slipknot shirt, or even the fact that I listen to a lot of metal and such. Turning eighteen made them a lot less able to tell me what I can or cannot do, thank god. ♥

I've never understood the issue with gay people either. I used to parrot pious bullshit in middle school, when I was new to the faith and hadn't actually thought about it so much as just accepted blindly. But the more I thought about this, the less I actually believed it. I used to do the whole "being gay is wrong because the Bible says so". As I read more into it, and did a bit more soul-searching and talking with people on the teen boards on AOL about religion--the AOL boards were really good for discussing ideas and expanding your own--I realized that being gay shouldn't be such a huge deal. Jesus healed a gay man, for one. He could have condemned them for living in sin, but instead, he said that the gay man actually had great faith. So the argument that you can't be gay and be a Christian is bullshit--some of the most gentle, Christian souls I've seen were bisexual or gay friends of mine at church. But because they don't love in a conventional manner, they're more doomed to go to hell than a hypocrite who loves someone of the opposite gender?

The logic of it never made any sense to me. Why should one's walk with Christ at all be affected by their sexual orientation? Also, I giggle at your quote of He said it was nearly impossible for a rich man to find his way to heaven. If that's the case, my church is going to hell in a handbasket! Southern Baptists are very rich, for some reason. One thing that pisses me off about youth group is that if you're in the youth ministry, trying to do what you think God wants--minister--you have to pay so much money in order to do it. I've had to work since I was fifteen because, while they're not poor, my parents live modestly and can't afford to give my sister and I money without getting into debt. How the hell do they expect a Chick-fil-A worker to pay over $600 for a ministry trip when she also has school expenses, car insurance, and gas money to pay, on top of having to work less hours because of honors/AP courses?!

Their response is always something to the effect that you should be willing to give up things of the world, something to that effect. I'm sorry, but unlike a lot of these dumb twats who leech from their parents, I like having my monetary independence.

I went on a rant, but yeah, the money thing is HUGE in church. I mean, yeah, Jesus did talk about it a lot. But I don't like when the church pushes it so much, you know? That, and the hate-peddling. I don't think Jesus wanted his people to scream "BABY KILLER!" at women going to abortion clinics, or protesting at a funeral because there's gays in the military. I mean, yeah, I don't care for abortion either, but wouldn't it be more godly to say, "I know you're making a tough decision, but just know that God still loves you no matter what choice you decide in the end"? I don't know about you, but I'd be more inclined to talk with that loving person instead of a hateful protester.

A friend of several of my friends said it this way: "I love God--it's just the fan club I don't like." My first step, I think, is to look into various sources without the heavy-handed influence of the church. I think, like you, that a lot of religions all revere the same God--just a differently named on. Allah = God = Yahweh, you know? :]


[identity profile] icthyopook.livejournal.com 2009-06-01 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Testify, sistuh!

I totally agree with everything you're saying.

And I'd like to focus my response on what you said about ministry. You know, a majority of Christians really focus HARD on the 'ministry' thing. "I MUST SHARE THE LORD WITH THE WORLD!" I think they go about it all wrong though. I don't think God wants Christians to go out harping "ACCEPT GOD INTO YOUR LIFE, OR HE WILL DAMN YOU IN HELL!!!" I think Christians should try to follow the teachings of Christ, always strive to better themselves as people... and when people envy their happiness, Christians should share the message of Christ in a loving manner.

Instead, many Christians today do all that they can to go to as many places as they can and tell native peoples that they're worshiping false Gods and they they need to accept Christ NOW.

The missions that go out and build homes for the poor and what not, they have the right idea. But then these same people try to push and push the notion of 'One God, one book, and only he/it is right!'

The reason so many people hate Christianity is because they feel it is being pushed in their face; and the Christianity being pushed in their face is false Christianity, so I don't blame anyone for being resentful of it.

I think a better way to 'minister' is to better YOURSELF as a person first, so that you are stronger to help those in need... and if they ask of your faith, share it with them. Peace & love man, peace & love.

[identity profile] bleed-peroxide.livejournal.com 2009-06-01 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I think that you bring up a great point--I don't think that sharing your faith if people ask is wrong at all. But people going to long-standing foreign villages to tell them they're doing it wrong, shoving religion down their throats? Not so much >_>

That's the reason why I'm not a huge fan of it anymore. I got really resentful of people shoving the religion down my fucking throat, especially logic that I didn't agree with a bit. Oi.