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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-05-30 04:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #876 ]


⌈ Secret Post #876 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 21 pages, 518 secrets from Secret Submission Post #126.
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Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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ext_6606: (green: whisper)

[identity profile] dana-kujan.livejournal.com 2009-06-02 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
You mean having (sexual) fantasies will make them more accepting of "teh gay"? I would have to say, no. I'm not saying that it could never happen, but I'm doubtful.

Straight men watch girl-on-girl porn all the time. One of the biggest homophobes I've ever met really enjoyed that type of porn.

I once heard a slash fan say, "I don't care about gay rights. I care about slash." She had been in slash fandom for about 15 years at that point, so the odds of her changing her views would be slim.

And did you see the spate of secrets from slash fans who voted for Prop 8?

I could go on... Maybe I've had some bad experiences or I'm just getting cynical in my old age, but your question was general so, yes, I'm generalizing.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2009-06-02 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
It's a fair answer. As I said, just playing devil's advocate.

And I know the hypocritical attitudes do exist. I agreed with the initial annoyance that GLBT people are being made to feel like performers with this secret. I'm just curious if there's any redeeming value at all in this secret.
ext_6606: (nt: nip tuck me in)

[identity profile] dana-kujan.livejournal.com 2009-06-03 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I understand that you were just playing devil's advocate, and I've enjoyed engaging with you in this discussion. In fact, I was still thinking about it in the shower this morning.

I forgot to mention self-identifying heterosexuals like Ted Haggard and (probably) Larry Craig who have gone beyond fantasy to engage in homosexual acts and yet continue to dedicate their lives to marginalizing and demonizing glbt people. (I think this goes beyond being closeted.)

On the other hand, I failed to mention the secrets posted here that have declared things like "slash fandom helped me see gay people more as human beings" and "I never knew any gblt people until I got into fandom; thanks, fandom!"

So, maybe there is some redeeming value in that secret after all, even if it's just a venue for more discussion.