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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-01 07:04 pm

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Haunting of Hill House - the book

(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Like, if I didn't have respect for books I would have fucking tossed that shit across the room. It seemed like such an out of left field wanker ending. If she was so obsessed/controlled, why not just stay? Why drive into a fucking tree?

I don't know, maybe it's some existential shit that I am too dumb to understand but it was such a good book until that and I am still bitter like... however many years it's been since I read it lol.

Re: Haunting of Hill House - the book

(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't read it in years but, one, don't the other people who are there kind of force her to leave? Two, isn't it not so much that she's obsessed, as that the house itself is a malevolent force that's haunting her and forcing her to act this way? At least in part

Re: Haunting of Hill House - the book

(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
OP - yeah it's been about 5(?) years since I read it and they forced her out which to me also seemed strange since from a reader perspective it wasn't (physically I guess) harming her, but yes I got the impression the force was forcing(lol) her, which is why I was sort of waffling on whether to call it an obsession on her end or being controlled by the entity on the other end.

I guess if she was obsessed OR controlled, going back to the house makes more sense to me than killing herself does? Because nothing to me in that end scene narrative makes it seem like, "I am being controlled/I am obsessed and this is going to end badly, so I need to kill myself to stop this" is what's happening.

Re: Haunting of Hill House - the book

(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, that's interesting. I definitely have never read it as "this is going to end badly so I need to kill myself to stop this." To me it's more like... the house just wants the people within it to suffer. It's torturing them, particularly Eleanor, and it's taking them over as people. In Eleanor's case, the result of that suffering and obsession, as well as the fact that the other people are trying to force her away, is that she dies by suicide. But ultimately the cause is that the house itself is just this inhuman malevolent force.
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Re: Haunting of Hill House - the book

[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-05-02 08:41 am (UTC)(link)
You sorta have to read it in the context of the opening. As the victim of imo consistent relentless emotional abuse by her mother and sister who take advantage of her because she has no other prospects, Eleanor has very few good options. She can leave and be a punching bag for her remaining family until she dies or she can stay in the house that "wants" her, as nobody else wants her, as she desperately wants Theodora and Luke to want her, by becoming one with it. The car is the car she stole from her sister and it represents heteronormativity her utterly repressive life that the men are forcing her to go back to. So she crashes it, even if it means her death (again this is demonstrated by her first attempt when she hears her mother and almost jumps off the roof). That's how bad being single and gay-ish was for women in the 1950s/60s. That's the socio-political element.

The paranormal element is that Eleanor perhaps has the Shining, to borrow from King lol, and the house is working on her, the same way the hotel is working on Jack by convincing her that she is safe there and that no one else understands her and that she needs to stay...permanently. Like Jack this leads to her death.

Honestly starting to realize how much the Shining is similar to this lmao.

Re: Haunting of Hill House - the book

(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed, it does make a lot more sense in context.

Honestly starting to realize how much the Shining is similar to this lmao.

Makes sense, considering Steven King says that it’s one of his favorite novels.
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Re: Haunting of Hill House - the book

[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-05-03 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
and then there's the turning of the screw now that i think about it.