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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-06-05 04:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #882 ]


⌈ Secret Post #882 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.
[Peanuts]


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102.
[Kamen Rider Den-O]


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103.
[Avatar]


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104. [repeat]


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105.
[Twilight/CastleVania]


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106.


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107.
[Vampire Knight, Ouran High School Host Club]


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108.


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109.
[T-mobile NBA commercials; Dwane Wade, Charles Barkley, Dwight Howard]


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110.
[Angela Aki]


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111.
[Blackadder Goes Forth, Sharpe]


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112.
[Skins]


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113.
[Gossip Girl]


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114.
[Yet Another Fantasy Gamer Comic]


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115.
[About a Boy]


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116.
[Ghost Hunt]


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117.
[Repo]


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118.
[Elite Beat Agents]


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119.


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120.
[Phantom of the Opera]


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121.


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122.
[Brian "Head" Welch - Korn]


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123.
[Storm Hawks]


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124. [repeat]


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125.


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126.


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127.


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128.


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129.


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130.


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131.
[Kavinsky/SebastiAn]


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132.
[Ronin Warriors]


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133.
[Fringe]


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134.
[Tudors]


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135.


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136.
[Kevin Barnes, Mika Penniman]


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137.


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138.


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139.
[Avatar]


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140.
[Green Lantern]


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141.
[Hollyoaks]


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142.
[Amy Winehouse/Simon Amstell]


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143.
[Charles in Charge, Eureka]


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144.
[Harriet the Spy]


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145.
[Star Trek/Dr Who]


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146.


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147.
[Russell Brand, Stephen Fry]


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148.
[iCarly]


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149.


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150.


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151.


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152.
[Jeeves and Wooster]


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153.
[The Thick of It]


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154.
[The Cornered Mouse Dreams of Cheese / The Carp on the Chopping Block Jumps Twice]


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155.
[Hana Yori Dango]


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156.
[American Idol / Idolatry]


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157.
[As the World Turns]


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158.
[Charlie Bartlett]


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159.


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160.
[Legend of the Seeker]


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161.


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162.
[Springwatch]


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163.
[Ted Allen]


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164.


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165.
[Animorphs]


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166.
[Avatar]


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167.


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168.
[Ace of Cakes]


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169. [SPOILERS for Mentalist]



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170.


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171.
[The Adventures of Brisco County Jr.]


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172.


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173.
[BtVS]


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174.


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175. [Star Trek: Hidden Frontier/Helena Chronicles, Odyssey; possible spoilers]



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176.
[LOST]


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177.


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178.
[Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei/No Longer Human]


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179.


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180.
[When The Boat Comes In]


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181.
[Red Dwarf]



Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #126.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fm-gatekeeper.livejournal.com 2009-06-05 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
...Okay, wait. If someone called you a racist, and you felt it was an unfounded accusation... you wouldn't feel at all insulted and the world would be sunshine and rainbows and fluffy bunnies for you, or what?

[identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com 2009-06-06 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I'd at least try to find out why they had called me a racist.

Most of these "Baaaaw I'm being called a racist by meanies!" complaints that pop up around racefails are people who aren't bothering to even consider what the other side has to say. Read the secret - does this look like someone who has really read and considered what is going on here, or someone who is having a gut reaction to what they've seen said?

These complaints are always some person looking to be affirmed that they are not, actually, a racist. Which I just happy to really find funny because the decent thing to do when someone accuses anyone of saying offensive things is to ask why what you said was offensive, not to cry that you're not an offensive person.

The problem is that no one wants to consider their own racism. I won't say I'd be happy to be called a racist, but I've thought things in the past that were racist. I've probably said things that were racist that I didn't realize were, at the time. Would I like to avoid doing these things in the future? Yes. But the only way to actually avoid them is to know that you're doing them. Crying that someone called you a racist won't change any underlying behavior problems.

And before it's said, I'd like you to find me a person in fandom who has never, ever even thought a racist thing, or possibly said something that could be racially offensive. I'm sure most people want to think that this doesn't apply to them, and that's where the humour is.

[identity profile] fm-gatekeeper.livejournal.com 2009-06-06 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, I see where we differ - I agree with that third paragraph COMPLETELY, but I don't really buy into this idea that everyone's racist. A lot of people do, and that's fine, I guess, but I don't.

I just wondered because, if someone called ME racist, I think I'd be a little bit insulted. Maybe more than a little, if it was someone I knew well. But like you said, my next step would be to figure out why: were they just being easily offended, or misconstruing what I was saying, or did I say something was truly offensive? It's a fine line, sometimes.

[identity profile] jaquenerd.livejournal.com 2009-06-06 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Ti-gkJiXc

[identity profile] fm-gatekeeper.livejournal.com 2009-06-06 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I like that guy; he was interesting. Though I'm not sure whether you're trying to say something by posting that, or just sharing.

[identity profile] jaquenerd.livejournal.com 2009-06-06 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
lol little of both I guess. Mainly because he was addressing in that video the appropriate response when someone calls you a racist. That, ya know, they not so much be doing it to insult you, but rather let you know that what you said/did was racist and offended/hurt them.



[identity profile] fm-gatekeeper.livejournal.com 2009-06-06 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I thought he was more addressing how to tell someone they're racist, not how to receive the information, but that's just me.

[identity profile] jaquenerd.livejournal.com 2009-06-06 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
My bad. I think it can apply to both situations though. As in, you control your reactions.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2009-06-06 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
In a lot of cases, though, it's pre-emptive anyway. Like, either the person hasn't been called racist at all and is accusing people of something they haven't said (like why would you be a racist for saying you don't mind Zuko not having a scar? That has nothing to do with race). In other cases that I've read what's annoying is the person *is* saying something that's imo racist but they're pre-emptively saying that anybody who thinks that is being ridiculous.