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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-06 05:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #5965 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5965 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-07 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
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I think you’re completely right about all of this, and I understand where you’re coming from. Whenever a villain or anti-hero willfully dehumanizes people, that’s usually a quality that makes it hard to sympathize with them, or even like them if they’re supposed to be a fun bad guy. Some are so over the top that I can still enjoy them despite the fact that dehumanization makes me uncomfortable. Gilgamesh and Kirei Kotomine from Fate/Stay Night are examples of villains I kinda like who have these qualities I usually hate. Light Yagami from Death Note is an example of villains I don’t feel any sympathy or affection for because of those qualities. I don’t even understand my brain’s standards!

But if the character who does evil acts while dehumanizing is meant to be sympathized with, I usually can’t. That’s one of the reasons I find it so frustrating that Nana is an exception. Something about being in her head from almost the start, and seeing the signs of her brainwashing and the lies from her superiors from early on got me to feel for her. Even though logically I know she’s still doing reprehensible things even past the point where it would be no return for other characters. And it’s always hard to reread/rewatch what she did to Nanao, because I like him too, and it’s tragic that she created a monster out of this good person who already had a hard life. And you’re probably right about her not being completely rid of her bigotry towards Talented. People like Michiru(who’s fate also makes me cry still) helped her overcome it in a good way, and finding out her superiors were lying and using her pushed her even further away from that mindset. And I believe she really does want to atone and protect her innocent classmates. But it’s not so easy to let go of prejudice or brainwashing, so who knows if she’ll ever completely break free of it even though she knows that way of thinking was wrong all along.

And I would hate and distrust Nana just as much as her classmates if I was there, an apology and declaration of protection would only go so far. And yet I feel for Nana still, and it’s hard for me to watch them after she tells the truth. And when they beat her up under suggestion.

It’s all so complicated and contradictory! Like I said, my brain’s standards and double standards towards fictional people who commit evil actions are a mystery even to me.

Sorry for this long and nonsensical ramble! This manga gives me the feels, but in weird ways that are hard for me to properly articulate.