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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-08 05:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #5967 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5967 ⌋

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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-09 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I know it exists. Buffy and Willow bashing exists, if you look for it. I was there from the start too and stayed long after the series and Joss fell out of relevancy. I'm still writing Buffy fanfic! So, I know there are people who hate every character on the show.

I KNOW.

I'm arguing that that hate is nothing compared to the hate Xander gets and how inescapable it is. I can go almost anywhere in Buffy spaces and maybe, MAYBE, experience Spike hate once a month, if that. That hate never invades spaces unbidden, unavoidably, the way Xanderslander does.

Again, I challenge anyone to watch any random Buffy video on TikTok. It will 100% be Xanderslander. Guaranteed.

Go on reddit and you won't have to scroll far to find at least one Xander bashing post. Xander's tag on Tumblr is a mess of bashing, and I had to delete it, so my dash won't be inundated with it every day.

Spike is not and has never been so hated in this fandom. He has haters, every character does, but it's insulting to even entertain that he's the fandom's whipping boy. He's not, and I'm going to call out the lie he is whenever I see it, so get used to it.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-10 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The OP's claim is completely different than what you're pretending it was. They got sick of feeling like the morally justifiable thing to do was be quiet, presumably because people presented Spike-hate as feminism or couched it in other "I'm a good person for believing this and you're a bad person if you disagree" terms. And now they're not putting up with that shit anymore, and they want Fandom!Secrets to know it.

First you come and yell about how they're lying and rant about how you have it so much worse, and when people point out that they are not lying, you fall back on arguing that it shouldn't matter, because you still have it so much worse. So "get used to it."

Nope. I think your behavior is egotistical and unacceptable.

Xander may well be a deeply unpopular character, and that might be a valid reason not to make a secret about how much Xander-bashing bothers you - a lot of the people here who remember Buffy may not remember him fondly. But that is not the OP's problem and it is also not their fault.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-10 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Egotistical and unacceptable? Maybe. But I'm right.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-10 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Another DA

You’re literally not. It’s hard to believe you’re not trolling at this point.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-10 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not a troll. I believe and can back every word I've written here. Every. Single. Word.