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[ SECRET POST #5972 ]

⌈ Secret Post #5972 ⌋

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[Figment 2: Creed Valley]

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[Coffeezilla]

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[xxxHolic/Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle/CLAMP]

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...I have literally never seen someone complain that they 'only' got hundreds of views etc. Does this really happen?

I've definitely seen it. All those self-righteous posts on Tumblr about how "it's okay if you feel like no-one ever reads your stuff! why, my last fic only got 450 kudos, so I know exactly how you feel!"

AYRT Wow. Just...wow. ;/

idk i was a recently reading a fic and the author said that she guessed people didn't like the last chapter because it got significantly less comments than usual. the number of comments on that chapter...97, but she usually gets 170 or more so I guess it was upsetting.

I mean... I kinda see her point? Not that 97 comments are bad, and obviously a lot of authors would be over the moon to get that much feedback. But if you look at it from a percentage standpoint, the feedback dropped by a significant amount. If half my friend group who regularly socializes with me just ghosted me all of a sudden, it'd still take me aback even if I had 200 friends because... well, yikes, what did I do?

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There have been a fair number of secrets or comments here recently where people have been assuming that every hit on their fic is someone who

a) read it
b) read it through to the end
c) liked it
and then
d) just couldn't be bothered to hit kudos or leave a comment

and then proceeded to post a secret/comment about how writers/artists are feeling taken advantage of because they don't get more kudos/comments.

yyyyyep. a whole lotta assumptions

Yeah I am sure I leave a lot of hits on things I didn't read one word of because I click in, realise it's:

1. a wall of text
2. a wall of text with no capitalization or punctuation
3. in second person which I hate with a fucking passion

and immediately backbutton out.

Yeah, they're out there. I try not to take that sort talk as a personal insult, but it's a bitter pill to swallow as a small time writer.
When I was going through a lot of insecurity it was not fun at all to see a popular writer fret over "only" getting 500+ notes on their fic on tumblr, when the fic had been posted in under 24 hours. They were talking about how the shitty tumblr machine disables writers from getting their works seen.

As a writer who was excited to get 50~ notes after a month of having my fic up, yeah, yeah, it really sucks when your works don't seem to garner interest or are not seen for whatever reasons.

Tumblr creators are seriously a whole different level of entitlement in my experience. Like, no, your gifset that got ~200 notes in a fandom where the normal amount of engagement is ~200 notes didn't "flop" ffs. And that's to say nothing of the "you're a bad person if you like a post without reblogging it" crowd.

SURE. When I was first in fandom, I saw someone declare that she had lost all motivation to write because her latest fic had only gotten 15,000 hits (!!!). Somewhere in my mind, that became my reference point, and ever since I've thought, well, I guess if I were even as successful as that writer's most unsuccessful moment, I'd be getting 15,000 hits ...

What about fics in English in megafandoms that also only get 1 or 2 kudos and 10 hits because the writers don't have a pre-existing following and their fic is knocked off the first 10 pages within an hour? Those fall under the same category?

Ahahahaha, this is me but with fanart. I get more interactions in smaller fandoms. Big fandoms? Either I am lucky and get some traction or not and it's 2 likes from my friends

I feel like there's a space in between 10 hits and 100,000 hits. What about something that gets 100 hits, or even 1000 hits?

(Actually, how does AO3 measure hits, anyway? Literotica has an issue where every time Google shows a story as a search result, it's counted as a hit even if the person searching doesn't click the link.)

AO3's FAQ answer to 'how does AO3 measure hits?' (https://archiveofourown.org/faq/statistics?language_id=en#hitstats)

IDK, I can't understand complaining about getting that many hits because I've always written for tiny fandoms. Getting 100 hits sounds like an absolute pipe dream to me.

This attitude is really weird to me. If I managed to actually finish the fic I take the half a second and hit the kudos button. I don't sit there and contemplate if they are X popular or in Y language then they don't get kudos.

Yeah, idk. I don't even put as much effort into reading or writing fic, nevermind leaving kudos or commenting, as people like OP put into deciding to leave kudos or not.

If I didn't backbutton out of a fic and made it to the end of the fic or posted chapters, I leave kudos, if I have the brains and energy to think of something coherent to say I leave a comment.

I don't want to build up a steaming head of resentment when I go looking for fic, I want to read about my favorite characters.

Meaningless nonvirtue virtue signal received. Good job, OP! You really showed us!

I don't know why one wouldn't kudos a fic they enjoyed. It takes no thought, and literally half a second to show a little bit of appreciation to an author for providing you with enjoyable entertainment for free.

How much appreciation they've already received from other readers is irrelevant.

Saying you don't kudos popular fics, even when you enjoyed them, just seems like extremely sour grapes to me. I mean, you can obviously do what you want, I just think it's very emotionally ungenerous.

Because of people who sort their fic search by kudos. It won't unbias it but I wish it would.

If you really want to put your money where your mouth is, you shouldn't even read any popular fics. You seem to think kudos are limited, but you know what's actually limited? Time. The time you spend reading and then not-kudos-ing a popular fic could be spent reading and then kudos-ing another unknown fic.

It's, ah, not a zero-sum game, OP. You seem weirdly proud? of being mean-spirited. You doing okay?

You can kudos and comment on whichever fic you like, but that's kind of a nasty attitude. Giving kudos to a popular fic you liked doesn't take anything away from a more obscure fic, you can give to both. If you really feel a fic doesn't deserve your attention because a lot of other people like it, you don't have to read it at all.

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