[ SECRET POST #5982 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5982 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Cursed Princess Club]



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Comments

[fscom]

01. https://i.imgur.com/t94AO7o.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I tried to make a secret explaining that I understood Redshirts was shit on purpose. I just thought “on purpose” was a bad reason to be shit. Someone who thought they were defending me said the author failed at his job, because he didn’t make me realize it was shit on purpose.

(This is more obscure, but Crossing Souls is also bad on purpose, and it deliberately fumbles the emotional stuff around children dying horribly because the ‘80s cartoons that inspired it also fumbled emotional stuff. I hate Crossing Souls so much.)

[(Anonymous)]

It is the sort of thing I would have thought was cool when I was fifteen and just learning about plot twists in drama class.

[(Anonymous)]

I still think the better way to end the movie would have been to play it straight and have it end with averting the apocalypse/having the sacrifices die.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I mean, conventional doesn't mean bad. Conventional can still be a fun and thought provoking movie.

[(Anonymous)]

Would having the victims all die be conventional though? Those are the stand ins for the main characters after all, and conventionally, at least one of the main characters survives in horror movies anyway. And then I having the virgin arch type survive is just more boilerplate. They even point that out in the movie.

Yeah, triggering the apocalypse was nice and all, but if the movie wanted to go the subversion route they should have killed the virgin on accident when trying to kill the "slut" and have her survive (and that lead to the apocalypse because the death of the "slut" isn't optional). Something like that. I feel like the way the movie did it was basically the most conventional route there was in a movie trying to be meta about conventions in horror movies.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the initial positive reaction to this movie owes part of the popularity to Joss Whedon's magic and the fact that the ideas are somewhat clever, though not as clever as Whedon himself believes or his fans seem to think.

[(Anonymous)]

It’s just a shitty movie that makes people feel savvy for understanding even though you barely have to know a couple slasher movie tropes to “get it,” and beyond the spoon-feeding of shallow meta it has no substance besides one or two good laughs. I’ve heard it described as the Ready Player One of horror, and from what I’ve heard about RPO that sounds about right.

[kaijinscendre]

I enjoyed it the first time but I think it loses a lot on rewatches.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel this way about a lot of Joss Whedon works.

[(Anonymous)]

It was fine. I liked bits of it and disliked other bits and never really thought about it again. But it seems to be used as some kind of Smart Horror Litmus Test, which is in itself dumb.

You're right about the poster, though.

[(Anonymous)]

See, I love it, I think it's fun, but it's definitely not that fucking deep. There isn't some big meta conversation to be had about it, and if you don't like it that's cool but it's probably not because you "didn't get it".

[(Anonymous)]

This. I think the "you don't like it because you don't get it" vibe came from Joss Whedon fans. He had a lot more of them back in the day, who thought he was a genius writer who could do no wrong. I don't think he's got quite the same clout in 2023.

[(Anonymous)]

+10000

[(Anonymous)]

To all this: I have a big, fat “Thank You!!”.

I liked the movie, but I didn’t find it nearly as clever as it thought it was. I got it, like you did. But just getting it didn’t make it more clever or impressive in regards to the overall film, or most of the characters. There’s some smart writing here and there, but I just don’t feel impressed as a whole. The parts I enjoyed the most were definitely the shoutouts. While you can’t make an entire movie on references and shoutouts, whether I enjoy them or not. To the film’s credit, its doesn’t try to hinge the entirety of it on said references. I just wish there was more to a lot of it.

[(Anonymous)]

I like this movie, I don't think it's particularly genius or something but I liked the twist. Also I like this ending, it's satisfying to me (fuck the society that keeps standing on innocent sacrifices who have no choice in that). The thing is that some people so bad at reading media that they REALLY didn't get the movie. So I am wary. But you do you this movie isn't that good, it's cool

[(Anonymous)]

The ending where even the innocent sacrifices and would-be future innocent sacrifices die anyway? Fuck the innocent sacrifices too?

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT - I mean, in some cases there is something to be said for a pyrrhic victory. "Fuck the system that sees fit to dictate the fate of autonomous beings" is in fact a valid sentiment, IMO, though certainly not a simple one. Is it brutal for everyone else on the planet that now they/we get to face probable death as well? Sure is! But ultimately, no one person has the obligation to die for the sake of others, and the moment a systemic attempt is made to force a person to die for the sake of others, it places that person outside the system. If that person then chooses to wash their hands and let it all burn...yeah, that's valid.

I'm not saying I think Cabin In The Woods is super deep. On the whole I think it's interesting enough to have a conversation about, but less thought-provoking and incisive than it seemed to think it was.

I hated the ending, personally, but the part I hated was that stupid fucking hand. IMO they should have left it with the first faint tremor, and the audience not knowing whether this shadowy organization of dipshits really was right about what would happen, or whether they'd been arranging for the slaughter of innocent people for a millennia for nothing, and based on nothing but their own unfounded beliefs.

[(Anonymous)]

OP of this comment thread.

Thank you! It was eloquently put, this is exactly what I mean. And I had exact same discourse with a friend. I just find satisfying "fuck you I've never signed to be a martyr" thing.

And also I agree about the hand - it made everything... cheaper. Also it was visualy goofy really.

[(Anonymous)]

In ten years we'll be seeing the exact same post, only then it will be about Andor. Fandom has always had things some loud people think are smarter than they are, and are willing to try and bully and shame those who don't enjoy the thing they are stanning as true genius.

[(Anonymous)]

People who bully others for thinking something is smart when it isn't are always worse-behaved and more self-righteous than people who bully others for saying something that isn't smart, isn't smart. The second kind are mostly just defending their enjoyment of something that they get sneered at for liking because it's not smart, so they feel like they have to pretend it is smart.

[(Anonymous)]

this is one of my least favorite movies of all time. god i hate this fucking movie.