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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-31 06:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #5990 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5990 ⌋

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[personal profile] larathia 2023-06-01 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like I should point you at Arifureta: From Commonplace to World's Strongest. Specifically the light novel version.

The reason I want to do this is that while All The Girls Want Hajime, Hajime is only into Yue. They're a good pair in that he absolutely runs the combat show, and she absolutely runs the harem. Who's allowed within a mile of Hajime, who's allowed to flirt with him (and how much), who's allowed the chance to join in, ALL OF IT is Yue. Hajime, left to his own devices, would honestly probably shoot all the other girls; it's Yue who judges them both as party members and potential lovers, and it's this ongoing plot where women think they can bypass that only to find nope. Nopenope. Yue will Judge. And if you aren't good with that, well, Hajime can shoot you.

(This probably makes it sound very formalized and rigid, but it really isn't. And Yue doesn't regard 'sex with Hajime' as an honor that is bestowed without context; she evaluates just as much on things like "do you bring something new to this polycule" or "do you make Hajime happy or annoyed" and "can you even handle being in a poly relationship where you are NEVER going to be the Primary Wife and you are NEVER going to be able to command Hajime's time". I mean...it was ...Educational, which is weird for a harem isekai with a chuuni MC, I have to say.)

(Anonymous) 2023-06-01 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe all the harem I'm familiar with is outdated and this is a cyclical trope, but in what I've seen, all the girls being into the guy but the guy being into only one (or even more common, trying to run far away from all of them until he gives up and gets with the obvious canon love interest at the very end) is the harem norm. How is the way it goes in yours different from say, Love Hina, or even Sword Art Online?
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[personal profile] larathia 2023-06-01 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
Actually don't know :( I got bored of SAO way before it ever became a harem. Never watched Love Hina.

Can tell you that Arifureta has the main couple get together...fairly early on. He objects at first but it's kind of almost a token protest. And after that he's...resigned? that these other women are so bizarrely into him, such that he would drive them off (Hajime is not into running) or straight up shoot them to make them stop. (There's one character he inadvertently drives into masochism because of this; even Yue is like 'dude, YOU did this to her, if it upsets or disgusts you, DEAL with it'.) Hajime is very clear about his 'no'. No blushing, no running. Women are allowed (by Yue, or not at all) to TRY to change his mind, but have to fall within a very narrow set of parameters to have a chance. (They have to hold their own in his very, very game-breaking party, for one, and have to accept Yue is basically their boss for two. Between those two parameters alone, about 80 percent of wouldbe haremites get shunted to the sidelines.)

By the end of the LN series, there's Yue (the Wife), and the rabbit girl who fought alongside them the longest, as the core trio. The girl from his class who loved him longest gets a kind of tertiary status and everyone else (of the ones that were courageous enough to do more than merely come on to him once or twice) gets a kind of occasional "okay yes you did your part, we'll consider this your reward but don't get greedy" take.