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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-03 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #5993 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5993 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2023-06-03 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember the news of JKR's transphobia getting big a few years ago. And when someone posted about it on Faceboo, another person commented on the post about it like 'we've KNOWN she was transphobic for years!'

And I'm sure that person did. I believe them that JKR was saying milder transphobic things that weren't quite offensive enough to get into the news before her transphobia became Big News a few years ago. But I don't think everyone knew, because, no, not everyone was paying attention to her when she wasn't in the news.

As for me, I didn't follow her on any social media, I'm not on Twitter, and I hadn't really been paying attention to Harry Potter, and by extension JKR, since I was a teenager.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I think most of the people who "knew" she was transphobic forever are lying. People called her racist, misogynist, antisemitic ... though none to a dangerous level; nobody was warning everyone that JK would become a fascist because of some problematic things in her books. As they shouldn't have, because plenty of writers have the same sorts of problematic things in their writing and never went JKR. You can't look at questionable things a person writes and even what they say and know that they will take it down the path JKR did. Oh wait, I never addressed my first sentence fully. Anyway, nobody called JKR transphobic before she was openly transphobic. So yeah. Lying. You didn't know, and that's fine, because it wasn't set in stone yet.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don’t get why some people always have to be like “I’ve always known, and you should have too!” every time someone famous is found out to be an awful person. Some people did have signs, or it was an open secret that some people just ignored or denied was true until they couldn’t anymore. But some people didn’t really give it away, and it’s weird to insist it’s always been obvious, and judge people for not seeing or knowing it immediately.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think anyone knew for certain. But given the very strict gender norms in her writing, I also think it wasn't necessary surprising for everyone.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, there were a decent number of people (in and out of fandom) pointing out the sexism, misogyny and homophobia by then, although most people were still giving her the benefit of the doubt when it came to intentions. When she decided to lean into it instead and become Queen TERF, it was disappointing, but it didn't materialize out of nowhere.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Same anon you're replying to: I don't think the Facebook person meant they could tell she was transphobic from her books or anything like that. I think they had just been paying more attention to her on social media, so they saw the earlier transphobic things she said, the ones that weren't extreme enough to get into the news. Whereas other people only found out once it made the mainstream news and they saw it there.