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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-16 06:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #6006 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6006 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-19 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
That there are trans men who have other motivations, sure.

You mean the MAJORITY of transmen?

But the fact that this particular group makes your cause look bad, or you think it does, is not grounds for announcing that they don't exist or they don't matter.

I didn't do that. YOU are the one doing that with transmen. Because some women have to find shelter in the concept of transmen to protect themselves because no one else will is not any kind of argument against gender affirming medical treatment. It's just an argument against misogynistic society and culture. They come from the same source. This is why it doesn't make my cause look bad. Women do what they have to to survive. The fact that the act of surviving comes with side effects is not a reason to take away the mode of survival. It's a reason to fix the CAUSE. Which is a culture that hates women AND transmen.


But if you dig into the history of puberty blockers, you will find that their use was, ah, "pioneered" shall we say, with the bodies of disabled people

If you dig into the medical history of ANYTHING you will find that it was "pioneered" on the bodies of people who couldn't say no. Modern gynecology was "pioneered" on enslaved black women with no anesthesia. This ain't special, my dude. MODERN doctors doing this are in fact rogue who don't deserve their license.

I am saying that what you are presenting as "uncontroversial" and "well accepted" use of puberty blockers on cis kids has been hotly contested and argued over.

Except not? At least not in the medical community, which has used puberty blockers on cis kids since the 1980s. They are well documented, well studied, and very safe when used under supervision. I don't think uneducated people not accepting them makes them controversial. I don't take advice on medicine from plumbers. I don't take plumbing advice from accountants.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-20 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Gender care in the US is doing an inadequate job telling the difference between kids who will be glad they transitioned and kids who were trying to escape something that drugs and surgeries will not help them escape. The fact that the right tries to exploit this doesn't make it any less of a problem.

By the way, I think it either says something about how ingrained your gender stereotypes are that you think I'm male, or you're working curiously hard to try to find out whether I am by throwing gendered descriptors at me and seeing if I react.

Modern doctors doing what doctors never stopped doing "don't deserve their license." Okay. But these are the same people that ought to be trusted when they assert that puberty blockers are great.