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⌈ Secret Post #6009 ⌋

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Re: Tumblr and attraction to men?

[(Anonymous)]

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See ... as a villain-fan also, I'd put to you that women are often used as the Voice of Conventional Morality in stories. The ones making a disapproving face and angsting about the innocent victims and clamoring for our guys to be punished for their transgressions are overwhelmingly likely to be women. I've never hesitated to rake a man over the coals, when they're cast in that role (including the main heroes), but patriarchy has given us the shitty stereotype that the ones who are supposed to voice the conscience of society are women.

And it's presented as a binary - you have good, healthy girls that disapprove of villainy, juxtaposed against us degenerates who are disparaged explicitly for FAILING to disapprove of villainy. All that sneering talk about how "girls love bad boys" is literally society speaking out of both sides of its mouth. Because when it's not holding forth about women being so much kinder, more moral, and more likely to hear the pain of the downtrodden and crusade against injustice, it's pretending the only reason we could possibly respond positively to villains is because they make us wet. It can take serious work to maintain cordial relations in fandom when "the hero's female fans are doing it right, while the villain's fans are setting themselves up to have abusive relationships" is what passes for social commentary from canon creators. I really appreciate that the people writing manga and anime largely refuse to make moral pronouncements this. But I'm fed up to the teeth with it from American creators.

In my case it's never been about feeling threatened by onscreen women, per se. A lot of the time I would love it if there was some character who would voice the sorts of things I feel like saying and be there for my faves when otherwise they have to make do alone. Emotionally or literally. But ... it's not one content creator in a hundred in the US who can do that with a female character in a way that I feel represented, as opposed to dragged onscreen to be ridiculed. Like, "look at this stuuuupid girl with her stupid crush, even the object of her affections is disgusted with her!" You know? Solidly supportive, functional relationships are a rarity for villains anyway, but more so still if their dragon is female. The last one I can think of that was even sort of like that was the dynamic between Magneto and Mystique in the X-Men movies. But if more women were being represented like that, I think you'd find that a lot of villain fans would love them and write them and respond so much more positively to the fact that they exist than to these piles of in-canon girls who are either there to oppose the villain or there to be exploited by him.