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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-24 05:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #6044 ]


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(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
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I'm not convinced that's totally a colonial phenomenon, though. The mythologizing of older, more disciplined, more noble, more "earthy," more spiritual, more pure bands of warriors happens across cultures. There can undoubtedly be a racist or xenophobic component in the way these bands are imagined, but the fact that base trope itself appears under different guises I think points to some other underlying impulse.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think we really disagree? Obviously my original comment was phrased flippantly and erased a lot of complexity! And it's also conflating "popular" as "fans love it" and "popular" as "is overused by media producers" which are two connected but different questions.

I do think it's problematic when the kind of Romantic exoticizing that's common to all cultures and seems to just be part of how humanity processes the world is written off/condemned as Western racism, but at the same time Western Modernity isn't the only culture to have ever had a colonial outlook, even if the specific ways race is constructed are different. And there are definitely aspects of the Ancient Warrior Race trope that connect back to Noble Savage in a way that's specifically colonial (especially around the frequent positioning them as having lost their ancestral lands/nation or being from a disappearing/lost race) there's often a fairly transparent aspect of their appeal in Western media that is about grappling with living in a colonizer society. Not unique to American or Western European narratives either - I've been thinking a lot about how the Witcher canon is often specifically working with Eastern European history in its handling of fantasy racism and colonialism.