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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-08-01 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #6052 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6052 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 11:48 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like what happened in part is that execs took our complaints about well-written shows being problematic and concluded we weren't interested in the writing at all; we would be satisfied as long as a show matched our politics.

And the thing is that they're not completely wrong. Plenty of people are quite happy with content that's flat and bland but that has token representation or that explicitly decries bigotry; and the few well-written shows out there still get the complaints of being problematic.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Thread OP

It's not even that deep. Writing a cohesive and coherent and satisfying story line takes time, and that takes money, and the execs can't ABIDE people not-them getting money.
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[personal profile] green_idylls 2023-08-03 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I reckon the political thing is a thing though, part of the whole cash-grab mentality. They can wave around the progressive elements to entice people to buy a ticket or raise the viewing stats - and I find a lot of LGBT people at least sort of have a mindset of "this is the best we can get". There IS something to be said for coming home from a homophobic workplace or what have you and watching a show clumsily say "Homophobia Bad :)" - like I get why people settle for trash, I just think we all deserve better lol.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-03 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
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See, I just prefer fanfiction. I haven't felt like I really have to settle for anything ever since I found my way around the story archives. Pretty much from the Hayes Code on, there was this idea that people watching visuals were lower class (compared to readers) and that the masses couldn't be trusted with stories that weren't propaganda. Just *read* the whole American censorship code, sometime, and be amazed at how much it deformed visual storytelling and limited the plots that were allowed in front of any camera, and take a good hard look at how much has actually not changed. And then contrast that with fanfic, where people write it all and no one can actually keep you from reading it - unless they manage to guilt you into doing that to yourself.

Totally with you on everyone deserving better, though.