[ SECRET POST #900 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #900 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Scrubs]


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[Daniel Radcliffe & Tom Felton]


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[Phantom of the Opera]


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[Vampire Knight, Twilight]


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[Fallout 3]


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[Trek/SPN]


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[Little Shop of Horrors]


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[Pushing Daisies]


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[Total Eclipse]


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[Prison Break]


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[MGS, FLCL]


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[ReBoot]


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[Super Junior]


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[Producing Parker]


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[LotR]


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[FF9]


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[Stephen Fry]


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[Constantine]


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[Hourou Musuko]


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[Red Dragon]


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[Secret Diary of a Call Girl]


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[Stephen Colbert]


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[LOST]



Notes:

Sorry for the earliness.

Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 207 secrets from Secret Submission Post #129.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Comments

[sessile29.livejournal.com]

Well, Jesus - if you're gonna go into lower standards, we just might as well all take our ball and go home. Fandom has lower standards in general, no matter what you do or ship. Come on now.

Yeah, I have to do through a lot of dreck in order to find what I like, but when I find what I like - beats out anything I can see on TV or films. But seriously - Sturgeon's law, man. There's always gonna be a lot of crap. It's the good stuff which defines the genre.

[(Anonymous)]

That's the point.

If I like a ship, I am likely to be less critical of fic for that ship because it already has something I like. If I dislike a ship, well, that fic has to be twice as good for me to like it, because it has to get me over my initial DO NOT WANT or NOT INTERESTED reaction. So I will find less fic that I consider good for that ship.

Slash is not better than het.

Slash has cliches, stereotyped gender roles, fetishization of an oppressed group etc. etc.

You think it is better because you like it. If you have a het fic and a slash fic that were objectively the same quality, chances are that you, due to your personal preferences, would find the slash fic better.

Just like some one else would find the het fic better.

What matters is the relationship, not their gonads.

[sessile29.livejournal.com]

Actually, I judge a fic on its quality, so yeah, often I'm looking for a particular dynamic, but if the fic is good, real good, I'll like just about any ship. I just hunt for slash fic more often, is all.

But as far as what slash accomplishes... slash and femslash alike have more incentive to play around with expectations of gender imposed on us. Often they do this by nearly eliminating those expectations completely. And the fact that slash/femslash encourages this far more often than het does make me prefer it and makes me feel like it gives more than just simple romantic wish-fulfillment to those who enjoy it.

[(Anonymous)]

Way to miss the point. You hold het to higher standards because it's not something you actively like, you only think slash is better than het because it's your own preference. You're blinded my your own bias.

[sessile29.livejournal.com]

No, it's because I want my fic to do more than just tell a good story. If I just wanted good story-telling, I'd go watch a good movie or something. So yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of well-written het out there, and maybe sometimes the author is aware of gender tropes and actively seeks to escape them, or maybe they're not, or maybe they just don't care, but when the original medium itself has its characters still a part of that active social gendering... het fic's not really going to erase that for me. So het and slash fic may occupy the same level for you, but not for me. I don't care how unfair it may seem; I can't put them on the same level.

[(Anonymous)]

No one is saying your opinion is 'unfair', they're saying that your opinion is just that-an opinion;not fact. One that is not critical in the least. You can say "I like slash better than het" but you can't say "Slash is better than het" because that is just your biased opinion.

[(Anonymous)]

THIS