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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-09-02 04:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #6084 ]


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(Anonymous) 2023-09-02 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
To be sure, the whole "laws of thermodynamics" thing makes it very difficult to conceive of true immortality. I still think going from "absolutely will die in a human lifetime" to "absolutely won't die ever" would be an improvement, even if it's not the optimal solution.

Then again, it's also sort of difficult to truly conceive of "being dead". The thing I imagine probably far more resembles the "floating alone in an empty universe" scenario than it resembles what death is actually like.

I don't think I have a point here, I'm just rambling about mortality.

(Anonymous) 2023-09-02 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I worry about stuff like that too when I picture immortality. It's scary, I don't wanna live forever if it's really forever!

(Anonymous) 2023-09-02 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd be willing to risk it. I can always go comatose and insane anyway. In my house at Ryleh, the dead nonny lies dreaming. I guess. Become immortal and a lovecraftian abomination. ThT works for me.

(Anonymous) 2023-09-02 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"In my house at Rlyeh, the dead nonny lies dreaming."
That's a great line. :)

(Anonymous) 2023-09-02 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally agree with you, OP. I'm curious about that heat death of the universe fic though. Sounds interesting.

(Anonymous) 2023-09-02 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that concept of immortality is pretty off-putting. Though many that I've come across are more cannot die naturally, in that their cells and body systems don't break down due to aging and there's an aspect of super-healing. However, there's usually some vulnerability that can be exploited to kill them, even if it's just to cause so much damage, their healing can't cope. I mean, beheading often works, or you know, fire. But yeah, the 'Death Becomes Her' sort of immortality is horrifying.

(Anonymous) 2023-09-02 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Though many that I've come across are more cannot die naturally, in that their cells and body systems don't break down due to aging and there's an aspect of super-healing.

Yeah, I'm running through all of the immortal characters from my canons and 99% of the time it's this. They can still die permanently if it's done the right way, and for the characters who explicitly CAN'T die and will just regenerate/come back over and over again no matter how many times they're killed, it's treated in canon as being a horrific thing.

(Anonymous) 2023-09-02 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
On the one hand, the idea of existing truly forever scares me. On the other hand, the end of my existence and not existing anymore scares me too.

Mostly I try not to think about it.

(Anonymous) 2023-09-02 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's kinda scary either way! To me, though, the scariest part is that I don't get any say in the matter.

(Anonymous) 2023-09-02 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
This is why I hate the concept of an afterlife in general, and a heaven in particular. Scratch the surface of it and it's actually a hell.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-09-02 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I assume that a) the immortal doesn't actually know but so far nothing usually deadly has worked or b) if magic is keeping them alive and it's almost a divine force it's forever, otherwise the magic maybe can fail or c) if it's a biological integrity issue that atom scattering would probably work, but that's unlikely to happen.

so for me immortality is about knowledge of the immortality. the tucks have a bodily integrity but from magic issue, and tbh I'm not sure what I'm supposed to take from the bulldozed wood like....is that gas station going to give everlasting gas? if not, that's magic that can fail imo.

(Anonymous) 2023-09-03 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. Tuck Everlasting also made that impression on me as a little kid, even then I was into astronomy and aware that the universe would just end one day. All the book talked about was how immortality sucked because you lost all your loved ones over and over and had to keep moving and hiding, and I was like, ok but that's nothing compared to how eventually you'll be floating in a void for eternity. (Though to be fair the characters in the book probably didn't have that knowledge.)

(Anonymous) 2023-09-03 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Hm, I just can't take seriously the idea that a humanoid being could survive past something like the heat death of a universe. If it were some eldritch being, sure! But when we talk about human beings cursed with immortality, I just can't see a way that flesh would overcome. Entropy to all!