[ SECRET POST #6105 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6105 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

This secret comes off really willfully ignorant.

Do you give Ariel's name as much scrutiny?

Also, culturally speaking, be mindful of what respectability politics you're playing into with "trendy names".

[(Anonymous)]

Hi, I made this as a comment in reply to the person who made the tongue-in-cheek observation that nobody is annoyed about Ariel's name even though that wasn't her name originally in the fairytale in the "Secrets you don't want to make" thread (the main point was people discoursing about race changes when those aren't the only changes Disney themselves made.) I didn't actually want it to be made a secret, but I don't exactly mind so eh.

The thing about Ariel's name is that the setting is wholly fictional; an undersea mermaid kingdom does not exist in the real world, so no name is "unrealistic." So no, I don't care that she's named Ariel and wouldn't care if she'd been named Tiana, for that matter. The setting of The Princess and the Frog is real, and Tiana doesn't fit it for real. The other unrealistic elements are meant to be so (people turning into frogs, talking animals) but the name Tiana isn't meant to be taken as one of those. "Accept the impossible, but not the improbable" applies here.

[(Anonymous)]

Shhh, didn't you hear? As soon as a story has even a single fantastical element, expecting any kind of accuracy at all is suddenly unreasonable.

[(Anonymous)]

But as people have pointed out in this secret thread: Tiana is not inaccurate to the time period so OP, and the above anon, are in fact wrong with their nit-picking.

[(Anonymous)]

But OP feels in their feelings that Tiana is an unrealistic name. You know, unlike a 14th century French chick named Aurora.

[(Anonymous)]

I always hated seeing this response to secrets but:
You sound white.

[(Anonymous)]

and American?

[(Anonymous)]

Great time to bring this classic thing back
XD Cackling at my desk

[meadowphoenix]

look, you're dead wrong and maybe a little trolly on the form but not the merits. it would make far more sense to use a creole or a french name or hell even a classical mythological name. but considering black naming practices, i still kinda want to throw hands.

[(Anonymous)]

It would have been so easy for you to fact check this. The census data is all publicly available and free to access online at any library with a genealogy section, which is most of them. There's also google and any number of resources that wouldn't even require you to leave your house. Instead you wasted a perfectly good trolling attempt by trying to argue that a name that was already well into circulation in the US and Canada by the 1860s and continued to show up on a semi-regular basis throughout the 1900s was somehow "too modern" for the princess who's coming of age story takes place in the 1920s. I'm not even angry. Just disappointed at the complete lack of effort on your part.

[(Anonymous)]

Just wait until OP hears about the name Tiffany.

[killnotic]

For real!

I was shocked when I learned how old the name Tiffany is!

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you! I was thinking all of this but too lazy to type it all out

[(Anonymous)]

First of all, the movies are fairy tales for modern audiences, do you truly expect 100% historical accuracy? Second of all, Tiana's name does not seem like an outlandish choice.

[(Anonymous)]

I look forward to your secret on how it was terrible and inauthentic to change Moana's name in the Italian release.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't know anything about Moana having a different name in Europe but when I read your comment I immediately assumed it was for x-rated reasons. I googled it and I'm glad to find that my first instinct was right lol

[(Anonymous)]

As I recall, she was originally supposed to be named Madeleine/Maddy but that was considered too close to a name a slave might have and they changed it.

[(Anonymous)]

But why would "Tiana" not fit in the setting?