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[ SECRET POST #6113 ]

⌈ Secret Post #6113 ⌋

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Yes. Fuck Hamas, I am not pro-Hamas, but the fact is that their stated goals and their entire reason for being is in reaction to the disgusting colonisation Palestinians have been subjected to. That doesn't automatically justify their actions, which is my entire point - Hamas being bad cannot justify everything Israel has done! You can't colonise a people and then get all high and mighty and anti-violence about some of those people fighting back!

Especially ridiculous to suggest that any homophobia on Hamas' part means Israel Good given Israel's treatment of LGBT Palestinians. While holding themselves up as an LGBT tourist destination to distract from the rest of what they've been doing. https://www.palestine-studies.org/en/node/232088 and https://kohljournal.press/pinkwashing-israels-international-strategy

And to be clear, the views and aims of Hamas are NOT the views and aims of ALL Palestinian people, just as the views and aims of the Israeli government are not the views and aims of all Israeli people, and certainly not all Jewish people worldwide. Don't wanna let that go unsaid here.

lol at ‘pinkwashing’

“Stop making us look bad by not killing gay people!”

If you had read any further than the titles you would know that's not what the term pinkwashing means lol

im aware of the term
israel wouldnt be able to "pinkwash" if palestine stopped killing gay people

God, what's next, Good Guy Putin HAD to invade Ukraine because it's got Nazis in it? Are you having fun parroting the propaganda of the world's most heinous governments?

Obviously you are very invested in believing that Israel is totally justified, for whatever reason, so you're not going to change your mind in the course of this conversation. That's fine. But I would urge you to give those sources a read - consider them bullshit if you like, but at least have that knowledge. It can't do you any harm.

ukraine isn't regularly trying to bomb russia the way palestine is israel.

and i already gave the articles a look before, it's nothing i havent heard before.

also funny how the author for one of them admits they're a "gay Palestinian citizen of Israel". Why would that be?

DA

Way to justify mass murder, anon. Could you GTFO? Don't come back until you grow a set of morals.

sorry but any country in israel's position would be acting the same way

like what do you think would happen if mexico kept on shooting missiles into the us?

Bad analogy. It's more like if a micronation came to the US, took half of it, and then started bombing the rest to kill us, while members of that micronation starting physically throwing people out of their homes and stealing all their shit. The rest of the world looks on in approval and gives the micronation money and weapons. Or, you know, what we did to the Native Americans. We were the bad guys then. Israel is the bad guy now.

were we victims of a genocide before coming to america?

Some of us, yeah. Doesn't give us the right to harm others.

That nonny hates Jews and Zionists.

Jews =/= Zionists

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/05/21/u-s-jews-have-widely-differing-views-on-israel/

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/mar/07/debunking-myth-that-anti-zionism-is-antisemitic

Not you thinking that anyone's interested in your links. Piss off, Electronic Foundation troll.

pfft look at you acting like nothing that happens doesn't have explicit causes and history isn't real. if you're going to pull a hypothetical out of your ass, try to make it less laughably fucking stupid.

the post-war complete redraw of all the borders by the us, the uk, france, and japan made this mess, but no, let's just invent some feelings by bringing mexico throwing missiles into it

i'm talking about the present. do you expect israel to just sit on their hands and let palestine constantly bomb them because of what happened in 1948?

DA

It's not their land. Two wrongs don't make a right. Or didn't you learn that in kindergarten?

Palestinians are really Jordanians.

And we're all really apes. What's your point?

Hang on, sorry. So because Jewish people were horrendously attacked (not by Palestinians), it's fair enough for them to bomb Palestinians. But it's not okay for Palestinians to bomb Israel? After being under attack for decades by Israel specifically?

Does having been attacked in the past justify violence or not? Or is violence committed by brown people just never okay? (Interesting that you picked Mexico for your US example...)

Israel only bombs Palestine when they get bombed

And fine, make it Canada for the example

Like talking to a brick wall. I say there's violence on both sides for very different reasons, you say well Hamas is homophobic! I explain that LGBT Palestinians are not a bargaining chip, they're human beings, and caring about their wellbeing means caring about them as Palestinians not just as LGBT people; you say well Hamas is homophobic! I point out that you're just regurgitating a well-established talking point of Israeli propaganda that doesn't hold up under scrutiny; you say but Palestinians are violent and they started it and also Hamas is homophobic! I ask why violence justifies retaliation for Israel and not Hamas; you pretend I specifically meant bombs. Ridiculous.

Maybe you're just arguing for shits and gigs, in which case get a better hobby; otherwise, you have an incredible ability to delude yourself. I don't think it's gonna serve you well.

“ I point out that you're just regurgitating a well-established talking point of Israeli propaganda that doesn't hold up under scrutiny”

So they’re not homophobic?

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Also wtf at “The Real Oppressors of Gaza's Gay Community: Hamas or Israel?”

Israel isn't perfect but it does take in LGBT+ folks that request asylum from the Terrortories or other regions in the area that are beaten, maimed, harassed, bullied. I don't know how many or how few but it does take them in and they get some money to survive.

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