[ SECRET POST #6133 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6133 ⌋

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Re: SA

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks! I get what you mean, now. I agree, if they're not sharing genetic material, even if they perform the same function as each other in each universe, it's definitely not incest or selfcest. My understandings of incest (both the literal definition of the word and my more inborn reaction to the idea of it) is that similar genetics is a necessary if not sufficient condition.

So this two Bs have some same genetic material. So they are from genetic point of view are half siblings.

I feel like the fact of being from different universes changes this. I don't know why I feel this way, but for some reason I don't get the same feeling of familial relationship between the two. (for clarity's sake, I will use Loki has a name placeholder) Like, assuming genetics work the same between both universes, and Loki's mom has the same genetic material in both, and in universe 1 she marries A and in universe 2 she marries B, and in both cases they are the respective biological father of Loki - like, I understand that genetically the Lokis would basically be half siblings, but I definitely wouldn't consider them related at all and wouldn't consider the relationship to be incest. Though if they were capable of reproducing with each other, they would probably have some genetic issues.

It feels more like in that case the genetic similarity is an accident of large numbers, like doppelgangers who look almost identical despite not being related at all. I think there might need to be some of the familial dynamics to it, at least for me. Which does I guess means that while similar genetics are a necessary condition for incest, they're not sufficient.

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[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
Tbf I have absolutely no moral standing against AU selfcest. Because for me the main taboo thing is familial dynamics too. Like yeah whatever this people are are related on a genetics level, I just having a discussion about it, but they never grew up together. Even reproduction is a question. Will it affect their children? I genuinely don't know. Probably not, so I don't care.

Re: SA

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I have no moral standing against any fiction. It doesn't break my bones or pick my pocket. I just think it's fun to try and untangle.

Some people have very strong feelings that adopted siblings, when they share no genetics at all, would still incest solely because of the familial dynamic. But half siblings from a sperm bank would also be incest, even though they could have absolutely no familial dynamic. It's a whole gordian knot.

For me, I think this discussion has clarified that I think not only does there need to be some genetic similarity, but there also needs to be some kind of direct lineage. That the genetics that both or all of the people in question share need to come from the same discrete source. Not that they came from identical yet separate sources. That would take care of the multi-universe problem, since even though they both have at least one same genetic parent, there are two distinct sources.

Re: SA

[(Anonymous)]

I think there might need to be some of the familial dynamics to it, at least for me.

da and yeah, I agree. I mean, isn't that part of the reason why marrying, say, your third cousin isn't legally considered incest - because generally one doesn't have a close familial relationship with someone that distantly related? If it were all about genetics then that would also be considered incest, but it's not.

So an alternate self from another universe that you'd never met before and hadn't grown up with or spent any time around at all wouldn't be incest either because it doesn't have any familial dynamics despite having similar genetics.