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⌈ Secret Post #6136 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Even a rough sketch is nice, it doesn't need to be LotR level cartography. I liked the ones in old Juliet McKenna books, before she shifted to urban fantasy novels. They were great.

[ariakas]

Same. Geography influences so much about a setting, I find myself world-blind without one and it makes it much harder to get invested. Especially if it's a travelogue!

[(Anonymous)]

OOT but I loove your icon! I really need to bite the bullet and just play nocturne already.

[(Anonymous)]

If you haven't already, you might want to play the Devil Summoner games as well!

[ariakas]

Yes, nocturne is fantastic and like anon said, make sure you check out the DSRK games too if you haven't.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I bet a lot of authors just don't want to have to deal with anything that doesn't match canon.

[(Anonymous)]

It isn't a good sign if authors can't keep their own geography straight.

[(Anonymous)]

I know a few authors that include maps but they are very low on details, because they like to reserve the right to mix things up in the future. I kind of respect that.

[meadowphoenix]

honestly i agree even for non-fantasy. is there geographic movement? a little direction please.

[(Anonymous)]

Diana Wynne Jones made fun of the "there must be a map in every fantasy novel" trope in her "Tough Guide to Fantasyland". It's really funny. But I agree with you, OP. The only time I enjoyed a fantasy novel without a map is Stephen Donaldson's "Mordant's Need", which referenced a map but didn't provide one. What it did provide was sufficiently detailed information about the world that you could draw your own, which is what I did, and had fun doing it.

/ex-geographer

[(Anonymous)]

The Benjamin Ashwood series by AC Cobble has such a great description of the geography that the map is superfluous but I still live looking at it. It isn’t the most OMG WOW map ever but part of its strength is that it’s lightly detailed, which makes it so much easier to read on cheap paperback printing.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't hate it when it isn't given, but I do get ridiculously happy when I do get a fictional map.

[(Anonymous)]

If the author is going to have people running around fantasy land and/or having plot related politics between countries, give me the fucking map!

[(Anonymous)]

i'm weirdly the opposite. i don't give them much thought and don't know why they're so common. are you guys like, going back and referencing it a lot as you read the book? does it really help with the storytelling?

[(Anonymous)]

It helps me immerse in the world. And it tells me the author has actually thought about it and makes it easier for me to buy how this particular world works.

[rosehiptea]

I never refer back to them either. Not in fantasy and not in other books they sometimes show up in. If a character says "Whateverplace is five days ride to the east of Someotherplace" I'm good. But I don't read high fantasy very much and I guess it shows.

[(Anonymous)]

For me it depends on how complex the world is and how much the MCs are traveling. And since I mainly read on my kindle, I track down a copy of the map online and print it (or them; many have multiple maps) so I don’t have to bookmark and skip around so much.

But I love maps and am always looking at map apps on my phone the way some people watch YouTube or read Wikipedia.

[ariakas]

I reference them all the time. It helps a ton with visualization.

[(Anonymous)]

I reference the game map a lot when reading Witcher fanfic.

[(Anonymous)]

I like maps because it helps me visualize where various kingdoms are, what route(s) peoples' journeys are taking, what the landscape might look like as they're passing through it, etc. In a case like, say, Game of Thrones, it helps because all the political stuff is tied in to various kingdoms and where they're located is significant.

[(Anonymous)]

1. I just really like maps.
2. I have shit visualization and whenever they talk about travel or directions or territories etc I like to have a reference.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I'm the same. Unless it's a story where the characters are doing a lot of traveling and having a map is useful to gauge where/how far they're going, I don't ever give it much thought either.