[ SECRET POST #6145 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6145 ⌋

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Comments

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

I think you're getting caught up with the idea that right and wrong are binary. It's not, it's a spectrum. Some things are never "right" but they're the best option and we don't treat it like it's wrong. Example: It's wrong to steal, but if someone put explosives on you and forced you to rob a bank, no one will think badly of you for bank robbery, even though you were the one to do the action of robbing a bank. You won't get charged for it, either, because we understand that the threat of death is exculpatory. There are degrees of rightness and wrongness. Context matters.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

In what real world context is it understandable to wipe out an entire race of people?

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Remember that tribe of uncontacted people who attack anyone who came to their island? Imagine that they decided to take over a village on the mainland or something, and people fought back and all the islanders ended up dead. That's a(n accidental) genocide, and it would be in literal self-defense.

Also, there are no races of people. Humanity is one race.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

You should probably look up the definition of genocide and understand what it means before you start debates about it.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

I know what the definition of genocide is and I'm sure that the all important intention will really matter to an entire culture being wiped out.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

That's an implausible hypothetical, though, which is part of the point: the only way to carve out an exception for genocide is to imagine scenarios that will never happen in the real world.

It's also worth noting that every group that commits genocide tells themselves they're doing it to defend their people. They believe it's in self-defense, which points to an inherent danger in making that the line between acceptable and unacceptable genocide.

Also, there are no races of people. Humanity is one race.

"What we imagine to be real is real in its consequences."

Yes, on the genetic level, there aren't enough differences between us to say that there are truly separate races. That doesn't change the fact that we organize ourselves into groups with different physical features and backgrounds, some of which we call races, others that we call ethnicities. It certainly doesn't make racism suddenly vanish.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

OK, look. You're the one who wanted to "wrap your head around" arguing that a horrible act is not always wrong. There are no absolutes in the human mind. Things we never thought someone would do are regularly done now that there are 8+ billion of us. The point is that there will always be a way where the horrible thing that is "always wrong" will occasionally be the best choice of a situation. We have some weird-assed serial killers out there, and weird shit happens all the time. Moral absolutism does not work in the real world, cause it's freaky as shit out here.

I don't give a shit about some quote. Calling groups of humans "races" is some KKK shit. Genocides are about killing peoples and cultures, not races.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

Race is literally one of the groups identified under the definition of genocide.