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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-11-11 12:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #6154 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6154 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-11-12 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-11-12 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
the grand majority of places where distrust of cops is high do not have round-the-clock police coverage, because they're redlined (aka they were the only places black people were allowed to rent or buy property during the great migration and unless they're gentrified, are areas of poverty regardless of current racial and ethnic mix) and cops do not care about crime in those places. they've always had to wait to see if a cop gave a damn about a crime they called in, and weren't eager to call cops for crimes anyway because someone they knew was just as likely to be railroaded into a plea deal regardless of guilt, so less money certainly wouldn't change that.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-12 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

But people in those areas don't want to get rid of cops. They want cops who actually care about them and the crime that happens in their neighborhoods.

The whole point is that the people who want to abolish them entirely have never had the kind of experience that you outline, and as soon as they get a taste of even a fraction of what it's like, they change their tune. That's what makes it a privileged position: it comes from a place of comfortable ignorance.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-11-12 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
But people in those areas don't want to get rid of cops.
yes they do. not in the 90s sure. now? yes they do. you are fundamentally misunderstanding what acab and defund the police means, both by conflation and genuinely not understanding how deep the distrust in cops go (because it goes to reform attempts as well).

(Anonymous) 2023-11-12 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
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And you clearly aren't reading the research, because every single attempt to study this issue over the past several years has revealed that people in those areas want better police, not no police.

you are fundamentally misunderstanding what acab and defund the police means

You might want to make sure that every single person who uses those phrases means exactly what you think they mean, because it's pretty clear from what I have witnessed people say, advocate, and vote for that that isn't at all the case.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-11-12 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
why don't you post the studies, because a) the grand majority of studies don't split into redlined communities solely, they do race or socio-economic lines...which isn't the same thing and b) which city boards left the police budget up to a vote that only included the redlined parts of the city?