[ SECRET POST #6170 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6170 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a woman who finds Fury Road unpleasant and overrated. Furiosa is flat and two-dimensional, and the fact that she's the example for what counts as a "well-written female character" only proves to me that people are full of shit when they say that's what they're looking for.

[(Anonymous)]

Someone wasn't paying attention when they watched Fury Road.

[(Anonymous)]

Bet you don't like someone saying that to you when it's a character you're not fond of.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't mind it, cause I'll just say "You're probably right, I didn't really enjoy it." You're allowed to not like something without having to come up with some academic or moral reason why not.

[(Anonymous)]

Then what's the point of saying it? It's not a neutral statement; it's a judgment about the person holding the opinion. If your position is that someone can simply dislike something without having a reason why not, then why even suggest that the reason they dislike it is that they "weren't paying attention," which is a negative attribution?

[(Anonymous)]

I wasn't suggesting that the reason you dislike it is that you weren't paying attention, I was suggesting that you weren't paying attention because you said this:

the fact that she's the example for what counts as a "well-written female character" only proves to me that people are full of shit when they say that's what they're looking for.


"Everyone complaining about badly written female characters is a misogynist because they don't like ANY of them!"

"I like Furiosa."

"NO, NOT LIKE THAT!"

You CAN not like the movie or the character without saying that the people who find meaning and recognition in Furiosa's character are lying misogynists.

[(Anonymous)]

"Someone wasn't paying attention when they watched Fury Road" is a funny way to say "someone wasn't paying attention when they read this comment chain."

[(Anonymous)]

Saying two things that have no relation to each other only proves to me that people are full of shit when they say they've read the comment chain.

[(Anonymous)]

But what about Two Chains? Was he really as bad as people say?

[ariakas]

Furiosa is flat and two-dimensional, and the fact that she's the example for what counts as a "well-written female character" only proves to me that people are full of shit when they say that's what they're looking for.

But why? She's like a thousand male protagonists out there who are Grim, Gruff, Determined, and Stoic, and men absolutely adore and idolize these guys without some foot-stomping scold telling them they're not well-written enough to be enjoyable. They're fun. They're heroic. They get to have suffering that makes them relatable but never crosses the line into exploitative but also heroic scenes of triumph.

Why are male characters who are exactly like Furiosa the standard heroic figure without a whisper of complaint while Furiosa is so unbearable that the mere existence of people who enjoy her proves that everyone who says they want characters like that are misogynistic liars?

[(Anonymous)]

Those male characters suck, too. The solution to the problem of female characters being shittily written isn't to take shittily written male tropes and apply them to women.

[ariakas]

So your position is that nobody, male or female, actually wants well-written characters if these are the kinds of characters they enjoy?

We'll, at least you're consistent.

[(Anonymous)]

I absolutely think that.

I think people don't want good writing in general. They want popcorn, which would be fine, if they didn't go around declaring that the popcorn is actually filet mignon.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow. Thanks for telling me what it is I want. I'm so glad you know my mind, and the minds of everyone in the WORLD, better than me!