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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-12-11 06:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #6184 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6184 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-12-12 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT - Out of interest, how do you feel about men calling themselves 'women' and 'female' then? These are words that have had a standard definition for decades, if not centuries, but are now considered somehow nebulous or have circular definitions in some (expanding) circles.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-12 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
Men never have and still do not normally call themselves women.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-13 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Not normally, but these men are not normal by any use of the word. But that's exactly the problem here, the distortion of language by changing the use of words far from their original meaning.
If we cannot ringfence a word as basic as the one that refers to the adult females of our species, how can you protect the (non-reproduction-tactic-based) meaning of asexual when someone appears to be stretching it beyond the original definition? It's a much less concrete concept than 'man' or 'woman'. If you can identify into the opposite sex, you can identify into any sexuality (or lack thereof) or identity you choose and no-one can say a thing against it.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2023-12-15 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry you missed the meaning of my comment, I thought it would come through without a spelled-out answer.

Men do not call themselves women. The people you call "men calling themselves women" are not men, they're women. Even if you don't like them, it's still a science-based fact that they're women. So you're the one who is using the word incorrectly. Hope that helps!

(Anonymous) 2023-12-12 10:37 am (UTC)(link)
You just had to find a way to bring this bullshit up even when it wasn’t relevant to the discussion.

Trans women are women.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-13 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
They're blatantly men, otherwise they wouldn't be trans (read: fake/pretend). Duh.