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[ SECRET POST #6209 ]

⌈ Secret Post #6209 ⌋

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(Jason Derulo)

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07. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia]

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People are allowed to have differing beliefs, true. There are people who believe that the Earth is flat, that dinosaurs never existed, that gay people will burn in hell, that women aren't worth as much as men, that plane contrails are the government dumping chemicals (more than the actual jet engine exhaust and water vapor) to control the masses. And as long as people with these kinds of beliefs announce them on public platforms, others with opposing beliefs are allowed to tell them why they think they are wrong and harmful. Funny how that works.

You're probably a man that likes women with dicks so you'll die defending trans women to suit your fetish.

Well, that's a well-constructed rebuttal.

Believe what you what, you're allowed, but I'm laughing at you.

You're assuming that the belief that (belief #1) trans women aren't different from biological women is as dumb as (belief #2) believing dinosaurs never existed and that chemtrails control the masses. You also believe that Belief #1 is fact. It is not.

I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

I believe that all women are different from each other, how could we not be? We all have differences in our experiences. I believe that trans women are not less than ciswomen, which I do think that JK Rowling does believe.

They are trans women which aren't equivalent to regular women.
As for being less than regular women, well.......some of them are. A lot of them are just men that are highly autogynephiliac or perhaps "transtrenders".

Women aren't equivalent to each other either, cause they're, you know, individuals... Do you think women who have had hysterectomies aren't "equivalent" (whatever that means) to women who haven't?

Where are all these claims that trans women are not biologically different from cis women?? TERFs keep arguing with this claim, but I have yet to hear a single trans person or ally make such a claim in the first place. I mostly hear trans people laughing at the TERFs who think that they claim this.

If you don't want be called a TERF you have to swear that transwomen are women. Indistinguishable from biological women who mostly prefer to be women not Biological or Cis, just women. That's the problem. They're not women, they're transwomen, and the biological differences should be acknowledged instead of letting transwomen into biological women's sports. Reasonable trans people don't try to pretend they're indistinguishable.

The only people arguing that "biological" should enter the conversation are TERFs.

Here's a lingual breakdown: "trans" and "cis" are modifiers, descriptors. If I want to talk about women? I just say women. When I want to talk about blonde women, I say blonde women. That's literally all it is.

I usually don't give enough of a shit about people's biology to reference it in conversation, nor should anyone in an polite society tbh, so calling women "women" is the bar we're trying to achieve. Whatever you want to scream about blonde women, or brunettes who dye their hair blonde, in your own time is your business.

The claim that they belong in women's shelters and women's sports because you think they aren't different from biological female (female from birth).

DA

They're not. Not when it comes to how we should treat them in society as women.

No female that's born female gives a shit about someone calling them a TERF.

Lol. So "TERF is a slur!" in a mantra invented by trans people, then?

No woman that's AFAB wants to be called a feeeemale.

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