[ SECRET POST #6210 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6210 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

People are complaining about a lack of good American actors? Huh. Guess I don't visit enough fandom places.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen it in a lot of social media spaces that aren't tied to fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

America has obliterated almost every other nations' movie and television industry with its cultural warfare, it is only fare that the actors from those nations takeover Hollywood in return.

[(Anonymous)]

"cultural warfare"

[(Anonymous)]

You are denying that the CIA has used Hollywood as an instrument of propaganda and to subsume other cultures in a way that is more subservient to US policy?

[(Anonymous)]

Come on

[(Anonymous)]

Do you, or do you not, deny it?

[(Anonymous)]

I deny the broad overarching claim that Hollywood and its popularity around the world is cultural warfare

[(Anonymous)]

Sounds like you are trying to dance around the truth of it by playing semantics. Hollywood has been, and continues to be, used as an agent of cultural displacement by the US government. Do you think the US Military cofunds Hollywood movies for the fun of it?

[feotakahari]

The CIA wants to make other countries do the CIA's will, but viewing the CIA as America is not only a gigantic mistake, it's exactly the kind of mistake the CIA would want you to make.

[(Anonymous)]

Then what is America doing to disavow the CIA's actions?

[(Anonymous)]

What do you want them to do? Most Americans either don't like or care about the CIA.

[(Anonymous)]

Like... what?

[(Anonymous)]

Dude what do you expect to happen? The French revolution in America?

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't know there was handwringing. Is it coming from Americans? If so, that might be because people are much more aware of international cinema and television. I mean, honestly, there was a time that if you watched a few British shows on PBS, you were 'cultured'. I do think there are fewer American superstars, but I think that's down to the evolving nature of media and marketing.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

From what I've observed, most of the people talking about this appear to be American.

[tabaqui]

This is a concern that was nowhere on my radar.

[(Anonymous)]

Is there?

[(Anonymous)]

The only handwringing I've seen is over hiring Black British actors to play important American roles such as MLK, not over American stars in general. And there is an interesting cultural problem there - white Americans not seeing African Americans as worthy of respect but assuming Black British actors have gravitas.

[(Anonymous)]

You know, I do remember there being a kerfuffle about Christian Bale playing Batman when he first got cast and how Batman is an American comic book character, but I have to think that was at least partly an excuse because some people always seem to get up in arms about anyone getting cast as Batman, but I will say there actually were a lot of British actors playing American in The Dark Knight Rises. But it did come up again, because for the next movie Heath Ledger was Joker and at around the same time Andrew Garfield was Spider-Man. It is kind of interesting how often they go outside the US when casting American comic book characters.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

TIL Christian Bale is not an American

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah it was especially noticeable around that time, but it’s a pretty constant thing. American actors do little to no formal training and actors have pretty limited range. In Europe and Australia, and Canada to a lesser extent, it’s very common for actors to study and train for years. And they are exposed to loads of American media so learn the accent often before any formal education. Typecasting still happens but it isn’t the norm like it is for American actors.

I think anyone crying about it is just jealous because they secretly think they’re perfect for the part of only they’d just been discovered.

[(Anonymous)]

I joked about this when I went to see Greta Gerwig's Little Women and noticed that the four lead actresses were English, Irish or Australian. They couldn't find four American actresses for this classic American story???

I was also weirdly amused to notice that two recent-ish movies involving The Manson Family (Charlie Says and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood) had Charlie portrayed by English and Australian actors. Are Americans not good enough to portray our most notorious criminals? LOL.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think there is or ever has been a dearth of quality American actors and if there were, how would it be a problem? As long as there are decent actors (of whatever nationality) appearing in decent quality media then everyone gets their entertainment fix and no one cares.

Maybe this is a Sturgeon's Law most of everything is crap kind of deal where there are a lot of crap actors and that blinds us to the fact that there are also good ones.

Or maybe it's like when 20% of the room is women people percieve the crowd as having gender parity and if it's more that 20% people think the crowd is majority women when it quantifiably is not. People might be emotionally overestimating the "market share" of foreign media in the US and foreign actors in US media.