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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-01-22 06:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #6226 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6226 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-23 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
That's not what he meant. He meant that women should obey their men and if they didn't it was totally justified for men to hit them.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-23 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
I can't seem to find anything that suggests that's what he meant. Do you have a link?

DA

(Anonymous) 2024-01-23 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sean-connery-slap-women/

TLDR: True. He also victim blames.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2024-01-23 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
That looks to me like he thinks it's okay to do when a woman's being an asshole.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2024-01-23 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Do you hit men you think are being an asshole?

"Connery: Well, if you have tried everything else, and women are pretty good at this, that they can't leave it alone. They don't — they want to have the last word. And you give them the last word but they're not happy with the last word. They want to say it again and get into a really provocative situation. Then I think it's absolutely right."

= slap a woman to make her shut up

"If a woman is a bitch, or hysterical, or bloody-minded continually, then I'd do it."

= slap a woman if you don't like her or the way she's acting.

"Sometimes there are women who take it to the wire. That's what they're looking for, the ultimate confrontation—they want a smack."

= she was asking for it.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2024-01-23 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
another da

funny how fast that anon you just responded to disappeared

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2024-01-23 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Funny how I have other things going on in my life besides responding to people on FS.

You got me, anon. I have a life, unlike, apparently, you.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2024-01-24 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
you should've taken the hint and left it there

guess i'll get the shovel now since you died like a fool on this hill

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2024-01-23 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Men absolutely do hit men that they think are being assholes. And nearly all of those quotes pertain to a woman being an asshole.

What do you think continuing after getting the last word is? What do you think getting into a "really provocative situation" is? What do you think being a bitch is? He's describing the type of person who can't let something go; who has to keep needling the other person about it and deliberately provoking a fight. That's an asshole!

The one quote that potentially crosses the line for me is the last. But even then, a majority of women admit, in surveys, that they have rape fantasies. A majority profess to being sexually submissive. There are, in fact, women who want to be slapped and try to get their men to do it. That he happened to notice this isn't a fault on his part.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2024-01-23 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt but I'm not sure why you are justifying a dead man's shitty opinions on how to treat a woman.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2024-01-23 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Because I don't think they're shitty opinions. I think they're opinions with a grain of truth in them.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2024-01-23 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Get help

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2024-01-23 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Refute the argument.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2024-01-23 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Why? You haven't.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2024-01-23 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't ask if Men did. I asked if you did. And if you do, congrats, you're the asshole. We do not solve our intra-personal conflicts with violence. That's an asshole move. Someone wants to get the last word in? YOU LEAVE. YOU DO NOT HIT THEM. Someone gets into a "really provocative situation"? YOU LEAVE. YOU DO NOT HIT THEM.

Rape fantasies are just fantasies. Sexual submission has nothing to do with real life abuse, which is what being hit is when it is outside of a pre-negotiated scene. You slap someone when you don't have their explicit permission to do so? Congrats, THAT'S ASSAULT. And in the confines of a relationship, it's DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.