[ SECRET POST #6226 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6226 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Gripe thread

[(Anonymous)]

Gaza's neighbors won't take in the population

Yeah, this is the part that gets me - the direct contrast between that and the response to Ukraine, where almost all of the nearby countries stepped up to take in refugees who needed a safe place to go.

Re: Gripe thread

[(Anonymous)]

That's because they care about as much for the people of Gaza as Hamas does.

You're right. It's disturbing.

Re: Gripe thread

[(Anonymous)]

This is sort of obfuscating what's going on.

The problem is not just that the neighboring countries don't want to take in Palestinians. The problem is also that the Palestinian population doesn't want to leave, with some justification - this is after all the place where their families have lived for generations.

One of the key grievances on the Palestinian side is the displacement, expulsion and dispossession of Palestinians from the time of the foundation of the state of Israel to the present. And one of the lessons from that experience has been that, if they leave Palestine, they will not be permitted to return. A large part of their political goal is to establish a viable society for themselves to live within the boundaries of historical Palestine. So trying to leave Palestine would just be totally at odds with all of their fundamental goals and what they want. Leaving Palestine as refugees represents precisely the kind of displacement which they are against.

And obviously, there are other reasons why neighboring Arab countries haven't been willing to take in refugees or be helpful in various ways. But like... expelling Palestinians as refugees from Palestine is not generally a solution that would be welcomed by the Palestinians even if countries were willing to take them. Also it would arguably be a crime against humanity I think although I'm not quite sure on that one.

Re: Gripe thread

[(Anonymous)]

This. Israel wants the Palestinians gone. Dead or refugees, they don't care. And yes, it is a crime against humanity. These are the crimes against humanity, I have italicized just the ones Israel has openly committed that I am aware of:

Murder;
Extermination [including "the intentional infliction of conditions of life, inter alia the deprivation of access to food and medicine, calculated to bring about the destruction of part of a population"];
Enslavement;
Deportation or forcible transfer of population;
Imprisonment or other severe deprivation of physical liberty in violation of fundamental rules of international law;
Torture;
Rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity
Persecution against any identifiable group or collectivity on political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, gender as defined in paragraph 3, or other grounds that are universally recognized as impermissible under international law, in connection with any act referred to in this paragraph or any crime within the jurisdiction of the Court;
Enforced disappearance of persons;
The crime of apartheid;
Other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health.