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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-03-14 05:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #6278 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6278 ⌋

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[Baldur's Gate 3]



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[Adrian Edmondson and Rik Mayall, Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders, Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry, David Mitchell and Robert Webb, Sue Perkins and Mel Giedroyc]



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(Anonymous) 2024-03-14 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I do think you can dislike one side without being the other, but you better specify why, or people will rightfully assume you're taking sides.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-15 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
You can't "dislike proshippers" without being an anti. You can dislike people who engage in discourse on the proship side, and not want to interact with them (I find a lot of them annoying myself), but "proshipper" doesn't just mean that, it means anyone who believes in Ship and Let Ship. If you don't bother other people about their ships, you're a proshipper. If you dislike people who don't bother other people about their ships, you're an anti.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-15 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)

Idk, I find people who call themselfs "proshippers" and make their web brand all about how annoying they find antis to be kinda cringe (also whatever the hell the rainbow meat thing was), even though I'm on the same page as them vis-a-vis the "you should not harass people for writing fiction you don't like" thing.

I guess I'd say "I'm not a proshipper but I believe in their beliefs".

(Anonymous) 2024-03-15 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)

^ nayrt, also

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2024-03-16 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
You don't have to call yourself a proshipper and participate in discourse to be a proshipper. Antis coined the term, and if you believe "you should not harass people for writing fiction you don't like" then to antis, you are a proshipper. Like I said, I also find a lot of active discourse proshippers annoying, but I myself am still a proshipper by definition. I don't want to be, but it is what it is until antis stop being a thing. And annoying also isn't as bad as actually harmful to others, which is what antis are or at least support.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-19 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who was mobbed by proshippers when I casually tweeted about finding a line in an age-gap romance series distasteful, I do not accept that proshipping is the neutral default. To me, ascribing to one label or another implies a level of active investment that I simply do not have. I'm not an antishipper, but I also don't believe fiction is immune to criticism. Problematic relationship dynamics can be called out and criticized without demanding they be banned or demonized. However, I also don't identify with a group that accused me of inciting harassment against a creator for saying, and I quote, "Ewwwww."