[ SECRET POST #6314 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6314 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

I still think he did it.

[(Anonymous)]

What convinced you? The fact that it was extremely obvious from the beginning that he did it or the fact that he wrote a book afterwards about how he did it?

[(Anonymous)]

You know, seeing this come full circle has been really peculiar because I was old enough to remember the OJ trial and how it seemed to take over the news 24/7 for aaaages. I had to look it up... the trial ran 11 months, which sounds about right because daily OJ Simpson trial updates became this weird fact of everyday life. Back then, the racial tension was so thick you'd need an axe to cut it, and it really dominated the trial. I personally thought (and still think) he's guilty, and there was plenty of forensic evidence and a background of domestic violence that made him the obvious culprit. If he hadn't been rich and famous, he'd have gone to prison for the murders.

His acquittal was surprising to me (I'll grant you, I wasn't following the trial on a daily basis) and really puzzling because I did not (and still can't) understand or condone how the contemporary racial issues of the time could translate into Simpson being acquitted. Yes, the LAPD (and many other people) had a major racism problem, and there was a huge justice disparity between black and white criminals. But Simpson was guilty, and he should not have been the symbol for racial justice in the form of letting him get away with murder. In NO way did that balance the scales for innocent black people who were railroaded by the cops or the judicial system. If anything, it was a bigger insult.

I think today, people generally have a better understanding of how an established track record of domestic violence and physical abuse can escalate and lead to murder. I also think they have a better understanding of how DNA works and what it means when a man's blood is found at the crime scene, and the victims' blood is found on his stuff, in his house. I don't know how that trial would turn out today if it happened in the year 2024.

[(Anonymous)]

I read somewhere that if this crime had happened today, Simpson's lawyer would have taken one look at the DNA evidence and cut a deal. It absolutely would not have gone to trial.

The big difference here is that juries have gone from being completely clueless about DNA to believing DNA is the ultimate proof of all wrongdoing. Even if there was room for doubt about the DNA, the defense would have had a hell of a time making a jury see that.

[(Anonymous)]

Obviously Simpson did it, but it's the state's job to prove that he did it and the state fucked up proving it because they were very racist and very incompetent. There's a presumption of innocence and guilt has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. It's not about letting Simpson off because he should be allowed to get away with murder. It's because the state wasn't trustworthy or capable of proving the evidence.

IDK I just feel like the people most responsible for Simpson getting away with it are the police.

[(Anonymous)]

+1, the LAPD fucked up the investigation and prosecution in so many ways - some of them blatantly racist, some of them racist AND stupid. Yes, he did it and it really sucks that the killer of two innocent people wasn't punished, but it's not surprising either.

[(Anonymous)]

The one good thing that came from this case was law enforcement finally taking the chain of evidence seriously.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, didn't members of the jury say they acquitted him as revenge for Rodney King, and not because they thought he was innocent? I don't think there's anything the state could have done to win their case in that context.

[(Anonymous)]

In NO way did that balance the scales for innocent black people who were railroaded by the cops or the judicial system. If anything, it was a bigger insult.

Yeah, it's also still used by racists to point at as evidence to their claims that racism is over and now everyone is sooooo PC and scared of being called a racist that they let black people get away with murder. They don't think it was an outlier, they think it's the norm.

[(Anonymous)]

He totes did it.

[feotakahari]

There’s a documentary arguing that Jason Simpson did it and O.J. covered for him. It’s a plausible theory at least.

[(Anonymous)]

I've heard of that theory. Did it say what possible motive his son would have to murder his father's ex-wife and her maybe-kinda-boyfriend, though? Because that to me seems like the weak spot. IMO, nobody has a stronger reason to kill those two than OJ himself, a controlling, jealous man who'd been known to physically abuse and threaten his wife on previous occasions.

That would also mean Simpson planted his own blood and other evidence at two different crime scenes in order to make himself a plausible suspect. That seems like a lot.

[(Anonymous)]

Dominick Dunne wrote some good books.

[philstar22]

Yup. He had a good attorney who did his job really well and he lucked out with a bad prosecutor who did not do their job very well. But he totally did it. And he was convicted of domestic violence, so he's definitely guilty of that.

[meadowphoenix]

the worst jury selection justification i've ever seen. like it's very clear none of those people had ever talked to a black woman over 40 about interracial dating by black men in their entire lives (were all black women in the 90s going to say the same thing? no. were enough going to say something where you start to think it's a bad idea to assume they will be sympathetic to a white woman? yes). just a wild misunderstanding of racial dynamics and wealth, and what apparently is typical lapd behavior at the worst time.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that's a good observation.

I remember at the time that most of the people I knew figured it was OJ's money and fame that mostly got him off. He was such a popular football player and had charm as a comic actor. It'd be like Travis Kelce killing someone (not Taylor Swift tho.)

[(Anonymous)]

It would be sort of like Travis Kelce killing someone, except different in one extremely crucial way

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, he likely did it. But that trial was a complete circus, like full-on, with sideshows and clowns. The judge should have recused himself, they shouldn't have let that much media coverage happen, there were some confusing explanations of the forensics, Fuhrman, that whole thing with the gloves should not have happened, etc.

[(Anonymous)]

It was over the minute the gloves didn't go on. The prosecutor should've punted for a mistrial at that point, with an option of refiling once the heat died away.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought he was probably guilty throughout the trial but moved to 100% certain because of the verdict reaction (which you can still find on youtube). Robert Kardashian who was OJ's friend and sitting right next to him reacted with shock and dismay at the verdict of innocence. Whatever happened behind the scenes with the lawyers and OJ made him at least certain he was guilty.