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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-04-22 05:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #6317 ]


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(Anonymous) 2024-04-22 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It is not impossible to come back from being canceled.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

It depends on what you've been canceled for.

Lizzo's probably not making a comeback. Ukelele Apology chick definitely isn't. And I give Ashton Kutcher a 50/50 chance of being uncancelled. People who straight-up committed SA, hell no. Mike Tyson is still hated to this day, and he went to prison for years.

As I said, it depends on what you've been canceled for.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I mean Lizzo's not making a comeback because she hasn't come out with any bops. Mike Tyson is hated by a lot of people but he also like, very much still has a career and is famous and can make money and he's doing exhibition fights. The idea that if you're canceled, your life is over, is just ridiculously not true.

Also, if we are including literally going to prison after being convicted of rape in the category of "canceled", then I feel like we are just expanding the category of "canceled" way too far to just mean literally any instance of consequences. And by the same token, if what you mean by saying that you can't come back from being canceled is simply that some people will continue not to like you, that's way too broad of a definition of "coming back". People sometimes not liking you for things you did is just... that's just life, innit?

The idea that criticism, even harsh criticism, even criticism that is thoroughly wrong and invasive and amounts to harassment, is something that it is impossible to come back from in the modern world is just not true. You can have a successful and happy life after that. That's the bottom line here.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I will not respond to you after this. Still, I must say I would have taken your comments more seriously if 1: you had not seemingly disconnected my comment from its context to The Orville episode. This tells me you have an agenda I want no part of.

And 2: Your Lizzo comment. It's so incredibly subjective I thought you were doing a bit.

Anyway. Bye.

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
You said that:

"The episode was horrifying! But I still don't think it went hard enough because it implied there was a way back from 'canceling,' which in real life is almost impossible."

I do not understand in what light that statement can be understood as true.

But I hope you have a good rest of your day!

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Weird to reply like this to a comment that was articular and entirely civil, honestly. You're acting like AYRT is being needlessly hostile and inflammatory, when if anything, your comments are the ones that seem to be out to provoke.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, I think some of those parents of Sandy Hook victims who are still to this day getting harassed over being crisis actors are probably not leading very happy lives.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
DA

This. It also depends on how rich, how famous and how socially powerful the cancelled person was to begin with.

DA

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
My experience within my social bubble (work, school, friends, family, and a staggering variety of social media) is that anyone who goes to prison for a crime is forgiven more readily than someone who got away with a crime, was accused of a serious crime but never prosecuted, or said something stupid on the internet.

The worst part of saying something stupid on the internet is that most cases I’ve personally witnessed are deep dives into someone’s past. In America, whites only started learning about privilege about ten years ago with many never hearing anything about it until George Floyd was murdered four years ago next month. Our society is undergoing rapid change and the consensus on what is acceptable isn’t carved in stone. There’s also the matter of personal freedom; people can believe whatever they want but their actions are subject to law. This is key when it’s everyday people getting cancelled because they went viral for half a day.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
My experience within my social bubble (work, school, friends, family, and a staggering variety of social media) is that anyone who goes to prison for a crime is forgiven more readily than someone who got away with a crime, was accused of a serious crime but never prosecuted, or said something stupid on the internet.

Except in cases of SA and CSA, the person convicted can serve their whole sentence—get out on parole—and immediately be placed on a registry. At this point, say goodbye to living anywhere except halfway houses and to ever holding a decent job, if any. And if someone decides they don't want them around, a previous victim or loved one of a victim can do anything to the registered SO with near-zero consequences.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, what did Lizzo allegedly do anyway? This is the second time I've seen an anon banging on about why a large black woman is just the worst person on god's green earth, and I have no memory of any large public scandal about her. What is the horror she has performed that has made her even worse than JK Rowling as a person?

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
Lol nobody said she's worse than JKR you moron. And you could have just googled it but ok. She has had several allegations of sexual harrassment and racial and religious discriminations and body shaming brought against her by several people in her crew.
You should ask yourself why you think "believe all women" shouldn't count if the person accused is a fat black woman though.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
DA
I highly recommend Google as a first step instead of immediately jumping to conclusions and making yourself look stupid.