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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-04-22 05:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #6317 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6317 ⌋

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NAYT

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Oh? How so?

Re: NAYT

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Well, social ostracization doesn't require you to be locked into a physical room and remove all of your access to the outside world, and prison does.

Like we can argue about what the appropriate views to take on prison reform and social ostracization are. But there's simply not any hypocrisy in having different views on the two subjects.

Re: NAYT

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I see. Thank you. I expected a more aggressive reply, and I appreciate that it wasn't.

Still, I have to say you're ignoring how both allow dehumanization. Only one is superficially less ugly than the other. But it all comes from the same place, IMO.

Re: NAYT

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
No, social ostracization doesn't involve being locked up. But it can destroy a person's life (including making it impossible to hold down a job or maintain a place to live) - and, sometimes, destroy the lives of their family and friends, as well.

It's a difference of degree, and I don't see how it gets rid of the hypocrisy wrt rehabilitation at all.

Re: NAYT

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

It's the difference between the open systemization of punishment and the hidden, unspoken punishments everyone knows exist but can pretend they don't.

Re: NAYT

(Anonymous) 2024-04-23 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
+100