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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-04-25 06:27 pm

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-25 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I myself enjoy watching lifestyles of the rich and/or famous, because that is a luxury and world in which I will never experience. And it can be really amazing and thrilling to daydream about an opulent lifestyle that very few will ever even get a sniff of.

However, rich people are fucked up. I enjoy the escapism but I also enjoy reminders of the costs of such a lifestyle.

If you were to ask me to choose which protagonists I'd rather watch, poor underdogs or ultrawealthy?

Ehh...to be honest, I'm one of those lame-os who says, it depends on what the story is about and how it's done.

I love watching films like "Gook" or "The Florida Project" but I also love films like "Thoroughbreds" or "Marie Antoinette". And I loved "Succession". But I also loved "Malcolm in the Middle".

I love media that depicts being poor/lower middle class in a way I can relate to or find it to be nuanced. But I also love media that is shameless in showing off how amazing rich people get to live, even more if the rich people are fucked up and people I can hate but sympathize with (but heartless rich bastards being The Worst is great too).

(Anonymous) 2024-04-25 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Read what you like. Escapism is always needed because life is so hard. Enjoy! <3

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-25 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yuuup.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2024-04-25 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
What I love best is either (1) the character who goes through awful stuff only to either get rewarded or find out they are actually a royal heir or something or (2) the character who has it all but sacrifices it to stop the bad guy/save the world/save someone he/she cares about.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-25 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm frankly just getting tired of the attitude that fantasizing, experiencing joy, or having aspirations is bad. There's this really loud group of people who seem to want everyone to wallow and be miserable, and I wish they would go go away, or at least quiet down.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-25 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS. Like, I'm genuinely sorry that your life is that miserable, but there are plenty of us out there who are actually pretty happy! We may not be living a life of luxury but we're content and have things we take joy in and things we hope to one day be able to have or do. It gets really exhausting when someone posts something about a small happiness and people immediately pile in to shit all over them because how dare someone not be suffering at all times, I guess.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-26 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who is pretty miserable and does seem to be suffering the majority of time, I agree! I want more positivity and escapism! Why wallow and drag everyone down?

(Anonymous) 2024-04-26 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
It's an unfortunate side effect of people mistakenly thinking that media consumption = activism.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-26 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I definitely enjoy stories about rich people. Though if the rich people are the main protagonists, then I usually prefer if they're kind of miserable. I guess that, as someone who is fairly poor myself, stories in which characters are miserable over things that aren't poverty-related are kind of comforting and escapist in and of themselves?

If the story is going to combine wealth and a reasonably happy protagonist, then I prefer rags-to-riches scenarios, where a brave little cinnamon roll finds themself in a world of wealth and luxury (and proceeds to be unassuming, humble, and kind of a bad ass).

(Anonymous) 2024-04-26 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I get it-- I hate how there are those people who equate what media you like with morality, not just in terms of sex and violence, but like... oh, if you like this book/movie/show with a rich protagonist, you're an enemy of the proletariat. Like... that's not how it works!

I REALLY love rags to riches stories, because I want to see a character who had nothing get to live a life of comfort, where they don't have to worry about money/survival anymore. Or stories where the protagonist loses everything and experiences poverty only to get it all back, like The Little Princess.

I'm never going to get that, so I want to see it happen for someone! Just like I'm never going to live in the houses I look at on zillow and I'm never going to win whatever award I used to practice my acceptance speech for in the shower back in high school.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2024-04-26 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
I find wealth/glamour-as-subject aggressively boring, but I'd guess from the comments (and the plethora of shows about rich people) that your sentiment is the more common one, anon.

Honestly as escapist fantasy goes it's pretty mild? We're all animals, we'd all like to have an excess of Resources and to be Higher in the Social Hierarchy. It's fundamental id. I'd much rather hang with you than with people with the people-I-don't-like-getting-punished comfort fantasy.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-26 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
The answer is to do what makes you happy OP :)

(Anonymous) 2024-04-26 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
this made me cackle so hard (the image used is perfect!).

I can totally get that desire for escapism, especially financially! I can only really enjoy it if the rich character is fleshed out enough OR poor person suddenly comes into money -- be it marrying the rich Duke or winning the lotto, whatever. Anything else just kinda can't break my disbelief and I either find myself rolling my eyes or pointing out that's not how money works. I need just enough realism to escape.
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[personal profile] killnotic 2024-04-26 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
I can tolerate watching rich or well-off characters occasionally, like in murder mysteries or royal intrigues, but it's hard to identify with them on most other things. Their problems seem dumb or maybe self-inflicted and easily solvable with a little bit of thought. Less well-off or underdog characters have problems requiring so much work and good luck to overcome them that I feel more tension watching them try.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-04-26 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
do you like show where they are mostly happy or show where they struggle just not monetarily? because i think a lot of people really like shows where they still struggle.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I kinda feel this but they have to be doing insane shit for me to care. The rich people need to be fucked up and crazy. Hated Jane Austen books but loooved Wuthering Heights as a kid, and Succession was actually good.