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⌈ Secret Post #6325 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

My feelings about TTPD are complicated. There are a lot of really good songs on it, IMO, but I also think it's quite flawed. There are parts of it that feel like some of the best material she's ever written, and parts that do feel like a bit of a regression—and sometimes those two extremely exist in the same song, which complicates things even more.

I don't think she puts Joe down for having depression, though, so much as she discusses the ramifications that deep, persistent depression can have on a relationship, from the perspective of the person who is not the primary depressed one. And I can absolutely respect that. I have major mental health struggles of my own, but I've been in relationships with people whose own mental health issues (including depression) reached a point where it felt like I was only there to give them support and listen to their struggles. They became very selfish because their pain was so consuming that it didn't allow them to look beyond their own suffering, and I was understanding and supportive for a long time, but eventually I began to feel neglected and resentful.

It seems to me like that's essentially the kind of dynamic she's alluding to at certain points in TTPD.

Also, she doesn't attack Kim Kardashian's kid. I'm not sure where you're getting that from.

She definitely accuses Kim Kardashian of being a liar and a bully, but I mean, yup, that's true, she is. I wish Taylor hadn't basically told her audience the song was about Kim; it cheapens the song and is unnecessary. But I don't think anything she says is particularly out of line. If someone had illegally recorded me, then doctored the recording and released it to millions of people to destroy my image, I'd have worse things to say about them than this song, that's for sure.

On the one hand, I can understand why some people want Taylor Swift to be this magnanimous, mature, wise figure in her music. She's achieved such immense success and power that I think people expect her to be the bigger person and shrug things off. What I think people forget is that her music has always been diaristic. Not everything she writes is personal, but she is writing her feelings a lot of the time. She didn't get where she is by writing songs that take an impartial and objective perspective, because that's not typically what diaristic writing is about.

If anything, I feel like Taylor Swift is quite magnanimous and mature in how she conducts herself out in the world. Her songs are the place where she expresses her feelings and her subjective experiences. That's pretty much always been how she works.

[(Anonymous)]

tbh I don't think thank you aimee is about Kim at all. I think she tossed Kim to the wolves to obfuscate who the real person she was talking about is. Otherwise it's just silly to have a song title with letters capitalized to spell out KIM while claiming in the lyrics she's changed her name and no one will ever know.

On the other hand, if I were in her shoes, I'd also be a petty, bitchy soul about what Kim did to her. SO LIKE. It's not my fav song, but I also don't blame her for it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I kind of agree. I get the impression it's about an actual girl (or girls) she went to school with (whom we are sincerely not meant to be able to ever identify), but also doubles as being about Kim. And I think the song also speaks to the way that a particular type of bullying person can feel like they may as well be the exact same person who bullied us years and years ago. The way that a certain type of social meanness just always seems to feel like a clone of itself, regardless of it coming from a new face.

But it's not one of my faves off the album either. I like a lot of songs off of TTPD, but the ones people are bringing up here on F!S are the ones I'm the most meh on.

[(Anonymous)]

I gave this album a go and really didn’t like it. I think I’m just destined to be a Folklore/Evermore fan ‘cause, aside from a song here and there, the rest of her albums don’t jive with me.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a lot of folkmore sounds on TTPD, especially in the "bonus" songs.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I think the mess of it is the point of it. The whole thing is about complicated relationships, messy feelings, situations that you wish worked out but don't, and how hard it is to keep your head through all of that--and how sometimes you don't.

It's not my fav. of her albums (Midnights is, to me, the superior album) and there's some songs I can't stand (Robin and Chloe et al are just so blah to me) but there's also songs I utterly adore, like Clara Bow, The Albatross, I Can Do It With A Broken Heart, Cassandra, loml...

And, well, it's honestly one of those albums that just grows on you. There's a lot to digest in the first listen and I liked it better upon a second and third go around.

[(Anonymous)]

And, well, it's honestly one of those albums that just grows on you. There's a lot to digest in the first listen and I liked it better upon a second and third go around.

Definitely. I was pretty meh on it my first listen. After a couple more listens, I ended up liking/loving a solid two thirds of the tracks.

[(Anonymous)]

The only album of hers I actually like is folklore

[(Anonymous)]

You don't like evermore?