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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-05-03 07:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #6328 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6328 ⌋

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02. [SPOILERS for Civil War (2024)]





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03. [SPOILERS for Ghost of Tsushima]




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04. [SPOILERS for Detective Conan]
[WARNING for discussion of incest]




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05. [WARNING for discussion of sex with a minor/statutory rape]




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06. [WARNING for discussion of domestic violence]




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07. [WARNING for discussion of JKR/transphobia]




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(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
You are applying logic to an illogical reaction. PTSD and emotional trauma dont follow logic.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
DA

And PTSD and trauma sucks. But that doesn't mean that trans people don't have a right to be who they are. If a white person was traumatized by a black person in some way and now finds seeing black people traumatic, that wouldn't make it okay to segregate again. Trans people exist. trans women are women and trans men are men. And they should get to live their lives and be themselves.

And frankly, trans people often have a whole lot of trauma because of being forced to be something they are not, judged, bullied, and attacked just for being themselves. Their trauma is just as real.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
DA

But the fact is that males and females are different from each other in a way that white and black people are not, and neither trans women nor trans men can ever escape the fact that their underlying biology is at odds with their gender. That is, after all, why they are trans to begin with.

And to a certain extent, we all tacitly acknowledge this. You're not objecting, here, to segregating according sex, right? It's not the fact that there are shelters specifically for women that's at issue, even though their very existence is predicated on the idea that if a woman has suffered at the hands of and been traumatized by a man, she ought to have a space where she can get away from men. What do you supposed that's based on?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
DA

The problem with trying to talk about the specific issue of women's shelters and illogical trauma responses is that the whole reason it came up in the first place is because transphobes want to draw much larger and stupider conclusions from that topic. What kind of policy makes sense for responding to someone's trauma in a very limited specific context is not actually relevant to the broader bigoted conclusions transphobes want to draw.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Well its a slippery slide to just reduce people down to their body parts. Maybe dehumanizing is a side affect of trauma, but that doesn't mean people should suffer for it - NO MATTER WHO.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Should we get rid of women's shelters altogether, then?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry that your reading skills are so piss-poor that you read DEHUMANIZING PEOPLE IS WRONG NO MATTER WHAT, into DUR HURR LETS GET RID OF WOMENS SHELTERS. Shame on you.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-05 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
So answer the question then.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-06 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
They did. But since you need things spelled out directly:

No. Of course not. We should not get rid of women's shelters. "We should get rid of women's shelters" is the opposite of what we think. We do not want to get rid of women's shelters.

Hope at least one of those sentences was clear enough for you to understand!

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Have you stopped beating your wife?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Not until morale improves

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
hi. I have PTSD.




It's my job to manage it, not make everyone conform themselves to it.