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I thought about and decided to check out polling for US Nov Elections

[(Anonymous)]

Went into an anxiety spiral. Will try not to do that again for a while. Lol.

Re: I thought about and decided to check out polling for US Nov Elections

[(Anonymous)]

Polling is a useless measurement, anyway.

Re: I thought about and decided to check out polling for US Nov Elections

[(Anonymous)]

I don't trust polls. Will never trust polls.

The only "polls" I trust are the ones people actually show up to for any election (unless they took advantage of early voting or cast their ballot via mail/ballot box, in which case, I trust those too).

Re: I thought about and decided to check out polling for US Nov Elections

[(Anonymous)]

Polls are at their absolute lowest reliability the last few presidential elections. The problem isn’t how the polls are conducted, per se, but the demographic that turns out for them. It’s all heavily skewed, most of them to the far right. Some skew center left. None of are any use whatsoever to predicting the outcome of the actual election.

Re: I thought about and decided to check out polling for US Nov Elections

[(Anonymous)]

Election is 6 months away, conventions haven't even happened yet, and the polling right now is.... implausible in certain ways that suggest polling might be somewht broken

Let's talk numbers

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, so there are about 336 million people in the US, and roughly 162 million who are registered to vote. Gallup Polls typically have a sample size of 1000. I believe that's common to a lot of overnight polls. Longer polls, taken over weeks, could have a sample size of tens of thousands. But let's say that you had 10,000 respondents, that would still be a fraction of a percent. They do try to get representative samples, but it's all based on self-reporting. There are margins of error that are given, but I'm not sure some things are truly accounted for or even could be. And that's not even thinking about the way the questions are asked.

Re: Let's talk numbers

[(Anonymous)]

I mean polling as a general industry has a lot of demonstrated successes. It's pretty well established that, in principle, using relatively small sample sizes to understand the opinions of larger groups is something that works.

It's possible that there are specific problems with polling methodologies that are being used right now. In particular, it's possible that the way people communicate have changed and so pollsters are now unable to actually contact a representative sample of voters. But polling fundamentally can work in the right circumstances, even if you're only asking 1200 voters or whatever.

Re: Let's talk numbers

[(Anonymous)]

There is such a thing as a sample that's too small, but after *n* gets above a few hundred, what really matters is whether it's representative of the general population.

Let me give you a quick and easy US-based example:

You've managed to get a whooping 50 million respondents to your poll. However, nearly all of them are white, Republican-leaning men.

Your competitor gets only 1000 respondents to her poll. However, she carefully selected her respondents, making sure that the demographics of her sample roughly match those of the broader US: i.e. the sample is about 50/50 male/female; a third identify as Democrats, a third as Republicans, a third as independent or something else; 12% are Black; 7% are LGBT; etc. She also solicited respondents from each region of the country.

Of these two polls, which is likely to be more accurate?

Re: I thought about and decided to check out polling for US Nov Elections

[(Anonymous)]

I wish there was someone that truly believed in protecting Jewish people in the States from Judeophobia and murder as strongly as they believed in the right for women to have abortions. Because a lot of the Democrats are wishy-washy.