[ SECRET POST #6344 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6344 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think when a lot of writers hear that people respond well to flawed protagonists all they hear is that their heroes need to badly mistreat others/have done awful things in the past, when there are other ways for characters to be imperfect and flawed in their life and relationships.

[(Anonymous)]

Correct.

Sam certainly has "flaws", he was arrogant enough to step into the QLA before it was ready because he was so certain of his theories, and we see time and again in his leaps he becomes so certain he's worked stuff out that he disregards Al or the leapee's family/friends, often to his detriment. Sometimes it works out, but often it doesn't. He also gets too involved sometimes, and caring too much can also be a flaw. He left his own wife, friends, and family in the lurch in his pursuit of his scientific dreams. That is all just off the top of my head, I bet if I sat down and thought about it then I could come up with more.

Those are all flaws. They are just not edgelord flaws that screenwriters think characters need.

[(Anonymous)]

He allows Al to horndog and perv all over the place. Big flaw there.

[(Anonymous)]

It would help if the writers of these characters would have the characters face consequences for their mistreatment of people with said mistreated family, friends, or romantic partners deciding to walk away from the protagonist AND not paint them as evil for doing so.

That’s one of the reasons I liked the show Bojack Horseman so much. It repeatedly said that no matter what your issues or trauma, you are still responsible for the stuff you do while in a downward spiral; being mentally ill or in the grips of a drug addiction does not give you the right to treat people like shit. Also, the people in your life have every right to decide that you’re a bad influence and cut ties for the sake of their own health or safety; they also are not obligated to forgive you for the horrible things you’ve done no matter how genuinely sorry you are for your actions.

If someone you care about is struggling under the grips of a mental illness or drug habit, obviously you should do what you can to support them. But sometimes, you reach a point where you need to walk away for the sake of your own health.

Why do I bring this all up? Well, women too often wind up blamed for walking away from their troubled men, no matter how much abuse they experience or if being with said man is destroying them, physically or psychologically. I’m thinking of all the grief Ariana Grande received after Mac Miller overdosed, because she had broken up with him or to use their words “abandoned him when he needed her most.” The idea that maybe Ariana needed to walk away for the sake of her own health or that she might have done so to provide an impetus for him to straighten up and get sober…that’s un-possible apparently.