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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-05-24 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #6349 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6349 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2024-05-24 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)

Transcript by OP

[personal profile] fscom 2024-05-24 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the Josstice League is superior to the Snyder cut

Neither version is great, but the Snyder version is a grimdark slog of a movie, now with two boring CGI villains instead of one! I prefer the colorfulness, levity and length of the Whedon version.
I can understand Ray Fisher feeling shortchanged about his character, but everybody else (from the League) came across better in the Whedon version. And Gal Gadot in particular was terribly wooden in the Snyder cut. The horrible theme for WW ("ancient lamentation music") wasn't her fault, but oh my God her narration of the ancient battle was dreadful.
(No defense of Whedon as a person or the workplace under his direction, that's a whole other debate. This is only about the end product.)

Re: Transcript by OP

(Anonymous) 2024-05-25 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Not in this fandom but "ancient lamentation music" made me bust out laughing at work.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-25 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
I want to have an opinion on this secret, but I haven't actually seen either version, only a bunch of clips, and youtuber opinions about each of them.

I feel like I might agree with you if I'd seen them, though. Joss's style wore thin for me at least a decade ago, but it does still have its charms, and I do sincerely believe he had a lot of talent as a writer/show-runner. Snyder...I wouldn't personally argue that he's a talentless hack or anything, but I tend to come away from his projects feeling a subtle, underlying sense of discontentment...almost a kind of 'ick' feeling that is hard to attribute to any one particular thing.

Snyder at his best (which LJ clearly wasn't), I come away thinking "Why didn't I enjoy that more?"

Whedon at his worst (which is seems like JL might've been), I come away thinking, "It's a shame Joss never grew past the style of writing he excelled at twenty-plus years ago, because there's potential there; it's just hard to appreciate it when quite a few of his choices are obnoxiously stale and feel sort of narratively shallow by 2020 metrics."

(Anonymous) 2024-05-25 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I am unlikely to see either of these, but I am strangely amused by Josstice League.
queenslayerbee: Isabelle Adjany as Lucy Harker in 1979's "Nosferatu the Vampire". She's surrounded by darkness, looking over her shoulder while she wears a white nightgown and a cross as a necklace. A hand with long nails like a claw is reaching for her neck from the darkness behind her. (batcat (batman returns))

[personal profile] queenslayerbee 2024-05-26 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
I vehemently disagree with the specifics (I fucking hated Josstice League tbh; great name btw), but also. I wish people who dislike ~grimdark films* just... stopped watching them and left them for the rest of us lol.

(*I wouldn't even classify the snyderverse as grimdark?? IMO it's pretty damn hopeful as a whole, but clearly I'm not in the majority here)