[ SECRET POST #6353 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6353 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

As a species we're gonna die on this mud ball, and never escape it. Accept it.

[(Anonymous)]

That's your opinion.
Having grown up with Star Trek, which in the past was optimistic for humanities' future, I remain the same.
We are absolute dicks, sure (climate change being a major asshole move from humanity). But we also have a great ability to transcend our environment. We also have to remember that we went from not flying at all, to going to the friggin moon in less than 100 years.

[(Anonymous)]

DA but the problem for the future-of-the-human species is much less anything to do with the fundamental nature of human beings as a species, and much more to do with the laws of physics.

The difficulties involved in humanity living in space are basically insuperable from a practical point of view and it's basically not gonna happen unless there's a fundamental and total revolution in our whole basic understanding of science.

[(Anonymous)]

:(

[(Anonymous)]

We may not be finding any hot aliens anytime soon, if ever, but we're definitely leaving planet earth... to the other mud balls in our solar system.

[(Anonymous)]

To what end? Who's going to spend the money to do it and why?

[(Anonymous)]

This is such a weird thread, in the sense that it's making me realize that not everyone is aware of the State of Space. I guess that's the echo chamber I'm in!

Many governments and private companies have been spending quite a bit of money to get humanity back to the moon, and to build a space station around it. They want to extract resources; explore new technologies; gain a greater understanding of our slice of the solar system; create a jumping-off point for deep space exploration, etc.

I'm not entirely sure about other countries, but the US is also spending money to get us to Mars. NASA primarily wants to explore the "life" question, but I'm sure resource extraction, technological gain, etc play a role there, as well.

[(Anonymous)]

I think basically all of that is wishful thinking, though. The idea that space resource extraction is economically viable enough to justify any kind of meaningful human settlement of space at scale seems extremely far-fetched to me. Of course there's scientific benefits to running major space programs - but the amount of money in our society that's available for that kind of research is just not that much.

Obviously some of this depends on the kind of scale that we're talking about - like, if it's just "The ISS but somewhat more so", that seems plausible enough. But actual permanent human presence in large numbers? Really? Settling Mars? That level of thing?

[(Anonymous)]

To a certain extent, it's not wishful thinking; it's something that's in the process of happening. Several countries have sent unmanned test flights to the moon in the past couple of years. The US' first manned mission is scheduled for September of next year. China expects to land people there by the end of the decade, and India and Japan are trying for the same. NASA has hired a company to build the lunar space station.

I think the scale overall is more "ISS but more so," but the plans so far have been ambitious, and the money has absolutely been there.

It's really interesting to find out that all of this isn't common knowledge. I thought that it was.

[(Anonymous)]

No, the disagreement here is far more about definitions and scale.

Although I'm certainly not as au courant with the happenings as you, I'm definitely aware that there's been increased investment in space exploration. It just doesn't fit my definition of "escaping this mudball". As great and awesome as the ISS is, and as important as space exploration is, doing the ISS times 10 or times 20 or even times 100 doesn't constitute escaping the mudball. We're throwing those people into space sure, but they're still going to have to come back to Earth.

[(Anonymous)]

I guess we'll have to see; I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be more sensible (and cheaper) to have people remain on Mars indefinitely than to try to shuttle them back and forth, and a lot of testing and experimentation has gone toward developing the tools and techniques for what could be called "colony life."

NAYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I figure if we can’t even solve climate change on this planet, we're not terraforming Mars any time soon.

Re: NAYRT

[(Anonymous)]

We're not trying to terraform it. Staying there long-term would involve building structures that shield people from the environment, not overhauling the environment itself.

Re: NAYRT

[(Anonymous)]

+1 Terraforming it wouldn't work, since it doesn't have a magnetic field strong enough to keep any atmosphere we would create.