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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-05-31 06:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #6356 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6356 ⌋

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Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
What are the worst cases of censoring cursing? Either for a TV edit or adaptation. Based on every time I think about on The Walking Dead TV show they said, "They're screwing with the wrong people," instead of "They're fucking with the wrong people".

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get what's wrong with your example. Do people not say "screwing with" where you're from? (I ask that honestly, as I know since I moved I've said a few things that I thought were normal and people just stop and stare like 'wtf')

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It is but the original line is fuck. In the same episode the lead rips out a guy's throat with his teeth (and it is shown on screen) and they are about to get into a gory battle with cannibals. But they can't say "fuck"?

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
OH, gotcha. It's not the word choice it's just that they changed it at all.

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Because saying "fuck" is easy for children (who shouldn't be watching the show, but everyone knows they do anyway) to copy. Ripping out someone's throat with your teeth, not so much.

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Buddy, if your children are watching TWD, they got bigger issues.

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I just figure that's American censorship for you. Violence okay, swearing bad.

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Wrong. See above. It's very reasonable to more heavily censor what can be copied by young children instead of what might disturb them but can't be copied.

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
How is what wrong? I don't get this comment.

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
That's really really not reasonable. If your young child young enough to copy everything is watching gory zombie show you can fucking deal with fucking fuck once in a while.
Also they absolutely can copy trying to rip throat out.

Re: Kind of based on 8

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Re: Kind of based on 8

[personal profile] ariakas 2024-05-31 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Sort of the opposite: rather than using period-accurate swearing, the showrunners of Deadwood used modern curse words because they thought it would have a bigger impact on the audience, while the antiquated forms would seem ridiculous to modern viewers. Ironically, though, this just comes across as a cowboy script by an edgy teenager delighted that his parents aren't around to tell him he can't say "fuck" - it's just forced and silly. It takes me out of it the moment they speak and I DNF'd it two episodes in.

Gravitas comes from good writing; there are so many gritty, powerful westerns where people use the curses of the era and trust the audience to understand that this is a different time and the delivery of the actors to convey the intended effect. (I feel the same way about Peaky Blinders' aversion to period music.)
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Re: Kind of based on 8

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2024-05-31 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I watched a movie on TV (forget the name of the movie, this was ages ago) where the word "pig" was substituted for the word "dick" which made certain lines make NO sense. The most memorable one was "that guy looks like he doesn't have a dick" getting turned into "that guy looks like he doesn't have a pig"!

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'm gonna start saying 'that guy looks like he doesn't have a pig' now...
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Re: Kind of based on 8

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2024-06-01 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
hehe

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Not quite the same but it really bugged me on that one episode of Glee where Gwyneth Paltrow sang CeeLo's Fuck -- er,*Forget* You and all the characters were like 'you know, that new song Forget You!'. I know they can't say fuck on primetime broadcast TV but it just felt so ridiculously awkward. These are high schoolers in the internet age, they absolutely know the real name of the song. Even if someone had started to say the actual name and been interrupted or if they had lampshaded that it's the radio edit it would have worked for me more than the show trying to convince me that any of these kids really think the song is called 'Forget' You.

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Omg no, this reminded me of in Let's Have A Kiki when instead of "motherfucker" Kurt just says "Mother" then stares at the camera
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Re: Kind of based on 8

[personal profile] kamino_neko 2024-06-01 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Tried watching Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle on Much.

They just blanked the swears, which is generally inoffensive.

But there is a LOT of swearing in that movie apparently. Vast swaths of the film were just. Plain. Silent.

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
The worst ones I've heard were in the TV edit of the movie Liar Liar. They substituted "snot" for the word "shit."

So the line "I'm such a shit!" turned into "I'm such a snot!"

I forgave that one, but then later on, Jim Carrey's character gets pulled over by the police for several traffic offenses, and he's supposed to be cursing "Shit!" I would've preferred they left it silent, but they literally copied "such a snot" and inserted it where the curse should be. So he was cursing "Such a snot!" I can't even follow the logic on that one.

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
This made me laugh so hard my partner asked me what was going on. The image of Jim Carrey yelling "such a snot" out of nowhere as a curse is too funny.

Re: Kind of based on 8

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
The official La Forte version of KinnPorsche. In the tv edit they censored the alcohol, and shortened the sex scenes while leaving in all the swearing. In the La Forte version you had uncensored alcohol, longer sex scenes, and while the audio in Thai was the same, the English translations were censored. So you had a mafioso shooting someone in the head, fucking his boyfriend, and swearing up a storm in Thai, and the English translation will say "What the fudge? My house is freaking wet!" There was even a scene where the actor says in English "This wasn't the fucking plan!" and the English subtitles said "This wasn't the freaking plan!"
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Re: Kind of based on 8

[personal profile] mulhollands 2024-06-01 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Taped Trainspotting when it was on TV late one night years ago (even though I had my own copy on VHS at that time), the blanking out of the swearing when Begbie yells at Sickboy about the cards was so bad. Thankfully when I've watched it on World Movies when it's been on it's not edited out.

Ah man, 'mother falcon' is the best.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Die Hard, television edit. Of all the words to pick to replace 'fucker', 'falcon' is the one they go with.

Re: Ah man, 'mother falcon' is the best.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
I'm fond of the 'melon farmers' in Die Hard With A Vengeance, myself.

Re: Ah man, 'mother falcon' is the best.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, the all-time winner for best censoring of swears is obviously Big Lebowski with Walter explaining for the sake of posterity what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps or feed a stoner scrambled eggs.