[ SECRET POST #6365 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6365 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

There is a huge difference between purging a site of everything and having a norm around labeling content, and labeling content does not constitute putting it in a "ghetto." Is the library putting adult fiction in a "ghetto" by labeling it as adult fiction? Is the library effectively banning adult fiction when it labels it as such? What about books stores that organize by genre? Are they censoring SF/F by labeling it, since that makes it so people who prefer other types of fiction can avoid it?

You're defining censorship so broadly that you seem to believe it encompasses merely describing content so that people can choose whether or not to engage with it. Do you think the only just way to treat content is to have no organizational system for it at all, so no one is able to seek out only what they want?

[(Anonymous)]

The labeling enables the purging. A library has people who are willing to risk their jobs to keep those books from being pulled and destroyed. If it weren't for them, how long do you think any adult fiction section would withstand angry crusades against erotica? Aside from the AO3 and Dreamwidth (which both cropped up in the wake of huge purges), internet libraries have no such protectors. Also, the erotica that can be published offline is already quite censored, compared to what people post online. Which is why the conflict over whether people can read and write incest, necrophilia, bestiality, underage, etc. is here - go to any commercial erotica publisher's submissions page and you will find a detailed list of the things there's no law against reading but they outright refuse to print. So, it's not a comparable situation.

I have nothing against voluntary labeling systems implemented in spaces where content's existence is protected. They certainly can make it easier to find what you want to read. But most spaces are not those. And also, I think there are solid arguments against people feeling forced to warn. The people who pushed that "norm," and continue to lobby for fandom to tag more, accommodate more, stigmatize additional things that used to be accepted, and look askance at anyone who won't, have completely ignored its foreseeable consequences. It's no skin off their nose when the stuff they didn't want to see disappears. But I think everyone else should feel differently.