[ SECRET POST #955 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #955 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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Comments

[lljscrawls.livejournal.com]

But I think what Hermione says about them being brainwashed does hold water in some cases. I mean, look at the way they're forced to follow orders. This isn't just an employer-employee relationship, this is an actual slavery relationship. Look how many times Dobby was forced to shut his fingers in the oven doors, the way Kreacher would rush to start bashing his head against the floor or wall. While the Hogwarts house-elves were treated well, other half-elves were clearly not, and there needed to be laws created or freedoms granted to those elves so that they weren't treated like that anymore.

I don't know why I didn't think about that before - stupid of me, I suppose, but all the same, that's more important than the clothes or the wages. It's the treatment. It doesn't matter if the elves think it okay or not - for all that they have a different culture, that different culture is still harmful to them depending on who their master is. Even if they're not self-destructive, it still could very well be destructive because of how tightly they're bound.

[xanykaos.livejournal.com]

Okay, the treatment I will definitely give you. If she would like to tone it down and actually take everyone's views into consideration, I would love to see her lead a crusade for ethical treatment of House Elves. That just needs to happen. "Liberation" is such a muddy term there, but actually treating them like living beings and not punishing them for "transgressions" seems like something that needs to happen.

My guess is that House Elves started as brownies or whatever hearth-spirit legend-type thing, bound to the house and willing to serve the family therein (and enjoying it) for nothing but food and respect, and the wizards added the geis of abject servitude that makes them compelled to utterly obey. That needs to change. "Freeing" the Elves, in so many words, would just make a mess of people miserable.

[lljscrawls.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I think probably later on, after the war ended and whatnot, when Hermione actually got to work on making life better for house-elves, laws were created to do just that - make life better for them, not necessarily change their entire way of living. She helped give them more freedoms, not necessarily set them completely free. It's hard to say, because we don't know too much of what happened after the series ended (mostly we just know who hooked up with who and what kids resulted, which . . . doesn't really interest me all that much, personally), but that's what I'm guessing. Nice, healthy compromise was reached.

(On a side note, I keep wanting to type half-elves instead of house-elves. Comes from spending so much time in the Tales of Symphonia fandom, I guess. xD)