[ SECRET POST #6377 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6377 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Expecting "smut fic" (your words) to be anything more than "fetish fic" (your words) is generally a mistake, I think. Of course every smut fic will be somebody's kink fic! Even if the kink is loving vanilla sex

Some kinks do seem to be more common than others, though, and a lot of people reading/writing slash fic with trans men in it (including trans men reading/writing the fic themselves) seem to prefer bottom trans man fic

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I wasn't expecting them to not be fetish fic. I was expecting them to not all be the same fetish, because trans people aren't a monolith. When I bring this up, I invariably get told that I can't complain about it because they're all written by transmale authors about their actual experiences and how dare I call them fetish fics and complaining about it is transphobic, of course. I have a feeling that all the transmale authors who don't write male vagina fetish fic just make/keep their character cis male, which would explain why the only trans smut fic is vaginal fetish fic, and why OP has a hard time finding transman/cisfemale fic.

[(Anonymous)]

Idk. To me it seems more that your understanding of what is a "fetish"/"fetishizing" vs what is a "kink" is different from the norm and that is what is throwing people off. Not that anyone is denying that bottom trans male fic in slash is prevalent.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

It is clear you and other anon are reading/seeing different fic. I totally understand where other anon is coming from. There is absolutely a trend with certain spaces/fandoms with trans fic that reads like fetish fic. And you're right that there is definitely a difference between kink and fetishizing, and these types of fics/writers are clearly doing the latter.

But in a general discussion I can see your confusion, because just talking about it isn't very clear. It's a hard thing to pin down and explain, but once you've been in a fandom or an author where this happens it becomes very clear.

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AYRT

I don't doubt that it happens in some places. But generalizing the aspects of trans fic one corner fandom to all trans fic is also non-logical... which could also be the reason original anon keeps getting the types of responses they do?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think they did generalize it to all spaces, and I don't think they "keep getting the response," either. They've said multiple times now that this only happened once.

[(Anonymous)]

I meant responses like the ones in this thread, not any specific response.

When they wade into a big genre of fic and declare broadly that "99% of the smut fic [is] just fetish fic" with no constraints and get defensive when people are like "that's not true across the board though," it's gonna keep happening, lol.

[(Anonymous)]

Vanilla is not kink. That's why it's called vanilla.

"Kink" isn't a synonym for "what someone likes in bed." It specifically refers to sexual practices that are outside the "norm."

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, wow. It's been so long since I've heard anyone use the term kink so literally with regard to fanfic.

Fandom has been using "kink" to mean literary or fiction-trope kink for ages now, or to mean whatever specific thing turns people on. You've really, really, never heard of a single person with, say, a kink for enemies-to-lovers fic? Literally people on this comm have said as much, as well as really common fiction-kinks with other tropes like age gap and hurt/comfort which totally don't necessarily, or even usually, involve "sexual practices that are outside the norm."

Your definition is just so sternly outdated that I can't take it seriously, my apologies.

[(Anonymous)]

You know, the thing I hate most about people in fandom is how they think their participation in niche internet communities entitles them to act like assholes.

You aren't better than other people because you read porn about fictional characters.