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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-06-30 04:12 pm

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(Anonymous) 2024-06-30 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
What? You're not into 20 variations of how much a victim lit up every room they walked into? Shame.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-07-01 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I feel this. One of the individuals I work with watches a lot of true crime stuff, and omg. The victims are always the saintliest of the most saintly saints to ever saint. It's a bit insufferable after a bit.

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2024-07-01 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Reminds me of some reddit comments I once saw. "I darken every room I enter" and "I'm a horrible person for safety reasons"

Made me snort with laughter .

(Anonymous) 2024-07-01 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
I’m in true crime group on Facebook and the running gag is that none of us ever light up a room LOL The other big one is the pictures with wings, it looked like a curse when the trend first started.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-01 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's not remembering the victims either. That's brushing over their entire existence with a glitter brush. Yet another reason why true crime is (almost always) a horrible and unethical ghoulfest.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-01 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Ehhhh, I think people are trying to be respectful and they mean well, even if it goes a bit far in terms of wanting to portray every victim like an angel? It's just that if you don't know the person, you'd go by what their families and friends say about them after their death, and of course that's going to be biased because people are grieving and it's only human to want to hold on to the good memories as opposed to the not so good or downright awful memories. There's also a very strong "don't speak ill of the dead" belief going on that most people feel they need to abide by, even if it's less than objective.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-01 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I think this phenomenon is so pervasive that in the comments on a Forensic Files episode someone expressed relief that Madalyn Murray O'Hair was not described in flowery terms.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-01 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I prefer a complex look at the real life human beings the victims were too. It's a reminder that we are all susceptible to having our lives lost in messed up ways, that we're susceptible to bad detective work, that no matter who you are, you deserve justice.

I constantly think of Princess Weekes' video "True Crime and the Theatre of Safety". "The theatre of true crime is to tell the tales of good, dead, clean women. Not messy ones... If she can breathe, she can lie."

I constantly remind myself, people are messy. And I would prefer true crime media that keeps it realistic.

I really liked the Netflix miniseries "Unbelievable" and I also listened to the This American Life episode "Anatomy of Doubt" where we hear the victim and her family and friends talk about what happened. It's a classic tale of how justice works in America, and we should feel uncomfortable about how common it is and how we so consistently fail victims.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-04 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I kind of find a lot of "remembering the victims" stuff horrifically invasive. Having a traumatic death/event in your family and then having that blasted all over the news is a terrible enough experience for the surviving family, and being dragged in as party to the private grief of them is just... icky.