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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-06-30 04:12 pm

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(Anonymous) 2024-06-30 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT
Wearing office clothes doesn't stop someone from being goth. But yes, if you wear the clothes but don't like the music, you are not goth. Metalheads who don't like metal are not metalheads. Easy as. If you wear the clothes, you're alt, sure. But not goth, by most standards.

Been in the subculture for years and years, and I'm tired of all the tiktok "goths", goodness. You can listen to other music and still be in the subculture, but you're not in the subculture if you don't listen to the music. Everything revolves around that.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-30 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I disagree

(Anonymous) 2024-06-30 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT
Okay, cool. Thanks for providing an argument. Really changed my mind there, buddy.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-01 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
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I don't know, since Gothic Rock itself is inspired by gothic literature, I feel like there's another way into goth culture.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-01 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT
Hmm, that's something to chew on. I cannot say I've ever met someone who considered themselves goth by today's standards through literature only in this day and age, although most of my other goth friends and folks I know in the scene do have a penchant for gothic lit. Someone above also mentioned comics and perfume and such things. I've had a few to drink so I may have to ponder on this later.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-01 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
DA
I will have to agree. At least when I was a goth, subculture consisted from people being into whole aesthetic +loving music or loving certain type of literature +or being into clubbing (ok, that correlates with music) +loving certain movies +lurking around cemeteries lol. Everyone had a niche for themselves.
But I do consider only liking dark clothes pretty shallow and empty

(Anonymous) 2024-07-01 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Goth as a subgenre and aesthetic has predated the music by years though. So you can in fact be a goth or like gothic things without knowing a thing about the music, or simply not vibing with the sound. Every goth kind of has their own personal defining point for it themselves as it is and you’d get laughed at by most for insisting that ‘proper’ goths have to like the music. You might even get called a poser yourself for insisting that tbh.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-01 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was in high school in the 90's, and goths hardly ever said anything about music. All you needed to do to be a goth was 1) wear too much black and 2) hate preps.

Damn kids these days don't know their roots no matter what group they claim to belong to.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-01 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd argue there are a TON of other goth media outside of music that goth people enjoy and that makes them goth. Comics, books, clothes, art, movies. Hell, gothic literature existed before modern goth music did.