[ SECRET POST #6442 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6442 ⌋

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Comments

[ariakas]

But why is only the leftist strawman bad?

I didn't say it was. In fact, my comment said exactly the opposite. All of the straw-political-stand-ins were bad, and that is what made the film's political commentary so vapid and worthless.

Reading comprehension on fs continues to be at a premium.

[(Anonymous)]

I should have clarified that this was more meant for the general discussion of this secret, not in particular your comment (should have probably replied to a different one). Because most others only criticise the leftist strawmanning, not the others. But yeah, this misunderstanding is on me.

[ariakas]

Fair enough. It would have been a stronger film re: its message had it not done this but also very possibly much less funny. And since the humour drove its success, I'm sure Rian Johnson is crying very hard about critiques of his shallow liberal politics on his bed of $$$$$$$$$$$ lmao.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I just don't really think a satirical whodunit comedy movie really HAS to have a flawless execution in terms of political commentary/message. Though it can be argued that it's equal parts of both in intention but that's probably a matter of interpretation.

[ariakas]

IMO framing it around a highly politicized issue (immigration) utilizing a political allegory (who "deserves" to inherit the wealth of America) invites fair critique re: the execution of its message in a way that other satirical pieces might not; ultimately, strawmanning alternative perspectives and centering the debate on what is also effectively a Straw Immigrant (literally nobody - and I mean nobody, not even full-on christofascists) is arguing that white-passing, fluent-English-speaking, conventionally attractive modest intelligent straight young cis women with in-demand feminized caring professions who immigrated via wholly legal means aren't "allowed" to be in the country or inherit its wealth with their hard work. It provokes no thought and means nothing; it's the graham cracker of immigration discourse, flavourless self-soothing pablum: let us all pat ourselves on the back for loving Marta, we are reasonable people, unlike those people, who think like that.

Johnson's SW film was similar: lip service to liberal politics with a vapid message; enough wit and entertainment not to mind that it says nothing and means nothing.

A lot of fun to watch though.