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⌈ Secret Post #6445 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Hmm. I've kinda been feeling something similar, but I'm not sure if it's for the same reasons? Like, just that I don't enjoy recent canon queer relationships as much as I enjoy m/m and f/f shipping from media that just has subtext. Personally though, it's more that I don't enjoy how ANY romance is written in most fiction. When characters are written as friends who are just REALLY close or as having a weird partially antagonistic relationship with a lot of dramatic tension, writers can't just slap some cookie cutter romance tropes on it and be done. The ships the audience picks up on have to actually have chemistry and interesting interactions.
I DO think it's good that there are more queer characters now. But it does feel sometimes like the possibility of choosing my favorite characters and relationships and deciding for myself which ones are queer is kinda foreclosed upon when the writers have already picked out some uninteresting side characters to be openly gay. IDK.

[(Anonymous)]

The thing I hate about almost all het ships is that they seem to think that all you need to show Love is for a Man to stand next to a Woman (usually the only woman in the show/movie). It's lazy, it's boring, they put more emotional work in to the friendship, hence the subtext and the slash goggles. Now that it's more acceptable to have canon queer relationships, they're doing the same thing. A Gay stands next to a Gay therefore Love.

NO.

[sabotabby]

That's exactly it. That's what's been bugging me.

[(Anonymous)]

Holy shit you articulated exactly why I hate canon gay pairings. It's just so boring to me ;0;

[(Anonymous)]

And on top of that, the first gay or bi character introduced will develop an immediate crush on the one other character who will also conveniently turn out to be gay or bi. And they just pursue the character without even questioning whether that character might be straight even when that character gives no clues one way or another about their sexuality. I get that angst about possibly falling for a straight person can feel out of place in a mostly feel-good piece of media, but there's a middle ground between that and not addressing it for even a second.

[(Anonymous)]

And this, this right here, is the actual end result of equality, which many people did not see coming (but some others did, way back when: the gay people who were stridently against gay marriage; the "I don't want a seat at the table, I want to flip the table" types. They knew it was gonna get real lame real quick!). Everybody. Becomes. Boring.

The consequence of wanting to be treated like the straights is getting treated like the straights.

Of course, that's overall a good thing. It just makes for some milquetoast art.

[(Anonymous)]

Disregarding the fact that equality has not at all been achieved, we've only gotten closer (sometimes getting boring gay love stories that play out like boring straight love stories is not the final measurement of equality in society lol)... why would it have to end there? The next step should be more interesting love stories for everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

What exactly would equality look like? We have equality under the law, in every respect that matters. You can't make everyone like you, if that's what you're looking for.

Now, elsewhere in the world? Abso-fucking-lutely, there isn't equality. There are places that will jail or execute you for being gay.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sure the trans folk in the US will be relieved that equality under the law has been achieved. It will be news to them.

Another DA

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sure gay people in Florida will also be surprised about this "Equality under the law thing"

[(Anonymous)]

The issue with gay marriage is not "OMG, we can call ourselves married" It was ALL the legal protections that COME with marriage.

[(Anonymous)]

There were no gay people against gay marriage. I mean okay, technically there were, but they were so fringe that they were virtually invisible and anyone who happened to see them thought they were crazy. Even the fringe gay people I knew would have preferred the abolition of marriage in theory, but they still supported gay marriage in practice because they knew gay people getting the right to marry was a way higher possibility than straight people losing it.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. It's been some time since I've seen mainstream American media do ANY romance well, het or gay. The writing is just not there, there's no time for character development, and that goes double for any kind of interesting/credible romance arc.

Meanwhile, you look back on a ship like Xena/Gabrielle in Xena: Warrior Princess and wow, so much material in the subtext that it's no wonder people loved it and still do.