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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-09-02 06:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #6450 ]


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(Anonymous) 2024-09-03 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, agreed.

One thing I never understood was why LJ went through a massive wave of journals all going "friends only" at about the same time. I was there for it, but I wasn't a part of it. So I don't get what suddenly made people scared to do what they'd been doing, comfortably and happily on the internet, just the week or month before.

Does anyone here know? Because it feels like a lot of the dysfunction in fandom settled in after a basic loss of trust that was made visible by that.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-03 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Not sure if this is the same time, but there was a period when fandom amd LJ was getting a little more main stream and I think a few people's journals got "found" by work or family and so suddenly everyone started to lockdown their stuff.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-03 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

As in, a few high-profile people got outed and punished for what they were writing, and the rest of the community was frightened? That would make sense.

Just now, I used the first time I delurked and approached someone whose LJ I read in order to continue to be able to read their posts despite the f-lock (something I mostly preferred losing contact to doing) to get a rough date for when this was happening. What I'm referring to was apparently disrupting fandom in 2008. Perhaps that gives you a more specific idea of what else was going on at the time.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-03 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, exactly. Fandom used to be a pretty insular community that we kept separate from "real life" stuff, but then at some point it got popular and they started to blend and people were facing some irl consequences for their fan accounts (mostly because of the porny fic).

But also, I think 2008 was when it was sold to Russia? They started to make some major changes. I'm fuzzy on dates but it was around then. A lot of people started locking down or leaving LJ around then.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-04 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
The wikipedia thinks the sale to SixApart (the Russian company in question) happened in 2007, but that they only started relocating in 2009. I was on Dreamwidth during the big exodus when Denise welcomed an influx of Russian journalers, and that was in 2017, when LJ changed its TOS to conform "to Russian law" and fans expected censorship of gay content and possibly punishment for Russian users, under a law that forbids the "promotion" of homosexuality.

Tellingly, the wiki article doesn't even mention strikethrough. You have to go to fanlore to get any sense of what impact that might have been having. But apparently it somewhat-maps to the dates we're discussing - the mass deletion of blogs after a religious group threatened LJ's ad revenue was in 2007.